Theory on How land came about on water dominated Earth

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The discussion revolves around theories regarding the formation of land on a water-dominated Earth, exploring concepts such as volcanic activity, plate tectonics, and the historical configuration of landmasses like Pangea. Participants consider both geological and astronomical influences on Earth's surface development.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Earth may have once been entirely covered in water, similar to Europa, and speculates that comet impacts and volcanic activity could have led to the emergence of land.
  • Another participant corrects a misunderstanding regarding the mass of water relative to Earth's total mass, emphasizing the importance of surface area ratios.
  • A participant proposes a rough calculation of ocean depth and land elevation to support the idea of a water-covered Earth, linking it to evolutionary arguments about aquatic origins.
  • Discussion includes the notion that Pangea was not the original landmass and references previous supercontinents, suggesting a complex history of land formation.
  • One participant mentions that early Earth likely had a basic crust similar to modern oceanic crust, with limited evidence of its existence due to geological alterations over time.
  • Another participant raises questions about the timeline of water's arrival on Earth, referencing theories about asteroid impacts contributing to water accumulation.
  • A participant notes that magma can contain water, which may have contributed to ocean formation during volcanic eruptions.
  • One participant speculates on the processes of tectonic plate interactions leading to land formation beneath the ocean.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and hypotheses, with no clear consensus on the mechanisms of land formation or the historical conditions of early Earth. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on rough estimations and assumptions about geological processes and timelines, and there are unresolved questions regarding the early history of Earth and the formation of its crust.

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If Earth is 70% water, and we see land being created by volcanoes... then would it be safe to make an ASSUMPTION that Earth may have once resembled something such as the moon EDIT: Europa. Covered fully in liquid water until comet impacts and volcanoes eventually gave way to land mass? Now i must be able to explain Pangea... how did all the land pop up in the same place at once? perhaps the Earth at that time, was only spewing lava in one location.. it's plate tectonics were just getting underway.. is it not safe to say? Pangea slowly ripped apart forming new faults, ring of fire etc. I have not thought this through to much, nor have i done any studies, it;s just an idea at the moment, but 'id like some input if you could thanks, positive or negative, but please explain your position, so i can gain some data and more ideas as well... Thanks

David.
 
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1018 tons of water in 6x1021 tons planetary mass ain't 70% --- do not confuse surface area ratios with mass.
 
ah yes, sorry, i meant surface area water... i can picture an Earth covered in water only... but i don't have exact depths etc... or i could calculate how much water would cover land if land was distributed evenly throughout the Earth. This could also help back up evolutionist who argue we evolved in the Ocean. I don't want to get to far ahead of myself yet.
 
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Well on the back of an envellope with gross gestimations. If the average dept of the oceans (70%) is -3000 meter and the average land elevation (30%) is 500 meters, then a perfect geoid shape without elevation differences would have been covered with 2100 + 150 = 2250 meters of ocean. Roughly of course.
 
this is great, thanks Andre and Bystander. I think we can all work on this here at physics forums, there are some great minds here... this seems like a plausible theory to me.
 
Pangea was not the original landmass. It formed from several smaller ones (sutre belts marking the joining points include the Atlas, Ural and Appalachian mountains). Two previous supercontinents are also thought to have existed prior to this- Pannotia and Rodinia, but these too formed of pre-existing land masses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangea

It's thought that the first crust was basic (alkaline) much like modern oceanic crust, and was short lived, leaving little to no evidence of it's existence. A little acidic (continental) crust is likely to have formed at subduction zones as island arcs, much like today. Partial melting and rising of granite bodies either during subduction, rifting or heating could account for the early continental crust. It is thought that direct vertical accretion of continental crust from the mantle played a more significant role in early formation than lateral accretion such as along subduction zones.

It's very hard to tell what happened in the early history of the earth, as most early rocks (if they survived) have been severely altered by subsequent events. One of my textbooks (possibly webster) said something along the lines of:
"Interpreting precambrian events is like solving a crime where 99.9% of the evidence has been lost, destroyed or altered"
 
I think you started too late in the Earth's life with your theory. Last night on NGC there was a program which stated water most likely came from an asteroid (other celestial body) impact 50 million years into the existence of Earth and a few more hundred million years for it too spread into massive quantities by biological process. Actually a bit of a lie, they meant oxygen and water but close enough I suppose.

Has there ever been a time in which the Earth was completely swamped in water? And are you asking about plate tectonics or a landmass protruding from the water?
 
Magma contains a significant amount of water too, and it often escapes during volcanic eruptions. I'm not sure how much of the ocean can be attributed to this, but I'd guess a significant proportion.
 
Tectonic Plates along with continental plates.colliding under the earth, causing a fault in the Earth's core..resulting in magma spewing out, dehydrating bits of water and creating land ( under water) and eventually the underground bits of land formed surface land...?

just an idea..
 

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