Thermal Conductivity for metals

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This discussion focuses on the investigation of thermal conductivity in metals, specifically comparing it to electrical resistance. The Weidmann-Franz ratio is highlighted as a key concept, linking thermal and electrical conductivity. Participants recommend foundational resources such as Kittel's "Introduction to Solid State Physics" and online platforms like HyperPhysics for further understanding. The Drude model and the Lorenz number are also mentioned as important concepts in this context.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of thermal conductivity and electrical resistance in metals
  • Familiarity with the Weidmann-Franz law
  • Basic knowledge of quantum mechanics principles
  • Experience with solid state physics concepts
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Drude model for electrical conductivity
  • Research the relationship between electronic heat capacity and thermal conductivity
  • Explore the Lorenz number and its significance in thermal and electrical conductivity
  • Review Kittel's "Introduction to Solid State Physics" for foundational concepts
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High school students, physics enthusiasts, and anyone interested in the principles of thermal and electrical conductivity in metals.

Dhesi
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For my advanced higher physics investigation I've been given the topic of thermal conductivity.

Basically I am going to investigate the thermal conductivity of different metals and compare them to the electrical resistance of the metal as I believe that those with low electrical resistance will be good conductors of heat.

I've also been told to find out about the Weidmann-Franz ratio as this is another factor which I can investigate. Searching google hasnt really helped so could someone please give me a bit more information on this?

Thanks,

Michael
 
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Dhesi said:
For my advanced higher physics investigation I've been given the topic of thermal conductivity.

Basically I am going to investigate the thermal conductivity of different metals and compare them to the electrical resistance of the metal as I believe that those with low electrical resistance will be good conductors of heat.

I've also been told to find out about the Weidmann-Franz ratio as this is another factor which I can investigate. Searching google hasnt really helped so could someone please give me a bit more information on this?

Thanks,

Michael
You can start off by learning about the role conduction electrons play in electrical and thermal conductivity, then at the role phonons and scattering play in resistivity. Have you taken quantum mechanics? I'm assuming yes since the Wiedemann-Franz law is based on the concept of an electron gas. Check out Kittel, Introduction to Solid State Physics for a good intro treatment, complete with experimental data. Many people prefer the older editions (I have the 3rd). From there you can move up to a rigorous treatment of transport and scattering (Boltzmann equation, etc.) in one of the classic books on solid state, e.g., Ziman or Ashcroft and Mermin. Harrison, Solid State Theory (Dover pub) is among them and has the advantage of being very inexpensive.

A related thermal/electrical ratio is the Lorenz number.
 
Hi,

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately I am not a university student I am in my last year of high school and the course we do is similar to that of first year university, but sadly I don't have the book you're referring to. This is an investigation we do where you are given a topic a bit outwith the bounds of the course to see how you handle it. Just couldn't find many resounrces online about it.
 
Ah, that changes things. Take a look instead at
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/thercond.html"
for a general description. This site (called "hyperphysics") is an excellent place to start research on a physics topic.

I'll look around tonight for any other sites that might work for you.
 
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First understand the Drude derivation for the conductivity: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/ohmmic.html#c1

Next, using the expression for electronic heat capacity, and the relationship between electronic thermal conductivity and heat capacity, you can write down an equation for the thermal conductivity of a metal.

Finally, taking the ratio of the two gives you the form of the Wiedemann-Franz Law: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/thercond.html#c2

PS: Marcusl beat me to it.
 
Gokul43201 said:
PS: Marcusl beat me to it.
We thought alike but I typed faster!

Here's another site that looks reasonable, with short descriptions of the major concepts and few equations.
http://www.answers.com/topic/free-electron-theory-of-metals"
Read the top half and click on Conductivity (electric and thermal), Mean Free Path, and W-F Law. (The second half is more advanced; it does mention lattice vibrations and phonons towards the end).

For the flip side to conductivity, see
http://www.answers.com/topic/lattice-vibration"
and the link on electrical resistivity.
 
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Really appreciate the help, I am much more clued up now :)
 

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