Does a Well-Defined Entropy Exist for Non-Ideal Gases A and B?

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The discussion centers on the existence of well-defined entropy for two non-ideal gases, A and B, based on their equations of state. The calculations suggest that entropies can be defined for both gases, with specific formulas derived from the first law of thermodynamics. However, there is skepticism regarding the mathematical correctness of these conclusions, particularly for gas B, which may have an internal energy that is not solely temperature-dependent. This raises questions about the validity of the entropy expressions provided. Overall, while the initial conclusion supports the existence of entropy for both gases, doubts about the underlying assumptions and calculations persist.
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Two non-ideal gases, A and B, whose internal energies only depend on temperature obey the following equations of state $$p=\alpha_A\frac{NT}{V^2}$$ and $$p=(\beta_B\frac{N}{V}T)^{1/2}$$, respectively. Here, $$\alpha_A$$ and $$\beta_B$$ are some constants. Determine for both gases individually whether a well-defined entropy exists. If not, what does that imply?
Relevant Equations
$$dU=TdS-pdV$$
$$dS=\frac{dU}{T}+\frac{p}{T}dV$$
The conclusion of my attempt I am listing below is that there do exist entropies for both but I am not sure.
$$dU=TdS-pdV$$
$$dS=\frac{dU}{T}+\frac{p}{T}dV$$
Therefore, gas A:
$$S=\frac{{\Delta}U}{T}+\alpha_A(\frac{-N}{{\Delta}V})$$
Gas B:
$$S=\frac{{\Delta}U}{T}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{T}}\sqrt{\beta_B}2\sqrt{N{\Delta}V}$$
 
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Adam564 said:
Homework Statement:: Two non-ideal gases, A and B, whose internal energies only depend on temperature obey the following equations of state $$p=\alpha_A\frac{NT}{V^2}$$ and $$p=(\beta_B\frac{N}{V}T)^{1/2}$$, respectively. Here, $$\alpha_A$$ and $$\beta_B$$ are some constants. Determine for both gases individually whether a well-defined entropy exists. If not, what does that imply?
Relevant Equations:: $$dU=TdS-pdV$$
$$dS=\frac{dU}{T}+\frac{p}{T}dV$$

The conclusion of my attempt I am listing below is that there do exist entropies for both but I am not sure.
$$dU=TdS-pdV$$
$$dS=\frac{dU}{T}+\frac{p}{T}dV$$
Therefore, gas A:
$$S=\frac{{\Delta}U}{T}+\alpha_A(\frac{-N}{{\Delta}V})$$
Gas B:
$$S=\frac{{\Delta}U}{T}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{T}}\sqrt{\beta_B}2\sqrt{N{\Delta}V}$$
Your work doesn't seem mathematically correct to me.

It seems to me that gas B would have an internal energy that depends not just on temperature.
 
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