Thermodynamical Equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving a cylinder divided into two volumes filled with ideal monoatomic gases. The initial conditions of pressure, volume, and temperature are the same for both volumes. Heat is introduced into one volume, leading to a change in pressure, and participants are tasked with determining the final volumes and temperatures of both chambers.

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  • Participants explore the meaning of "quasi-statistical heat introduction" and its implications for the process. Questions arise regarding the relationship between pressures in the two chambers and the nature of the process experienced by the unheated chamber. There is discussion about the internal energy change during adiabatic compression and how pressure and volume are related in this context.

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Participants are actively questioning assumptions and clarifying concepts related to the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the processes involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the final volumes or temperatures yet.

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The problem is constrained by the requirement to analyze the system under adiabatic conditions and the specifics of heat introduction. Participants are also considering the implications of the rigid and impermeable walls of the cylinder.

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A cylinder has rigid, adiabatic and impermeable external walls. It is provided with a mobile internal ideal partition wall, dividing it in two volumes (A and B). Each volume is filled with an ideal monoatomic gas. Initially, the volume, pressure and temperature of A and B are identical (P0,V0,T0). A certain amount of heat is then introduced into A in a quasi-statistical way until the pressure of A is PA=32P0.

Obtain the final volumes VA and VB in terms of V0.

Obtain the final temperatures TA and TB.



This is my problem. Well... first of all, what does it mean a "quasi-statistical heat introduction?". I know the ideal gas internal energy is given by

U=3/2*nRT=3/2*PV and that U=Q-W but without knowing the amount of heat, how can I determine the internal energy and the work done, in order to calculate the new volumes?


Thank you.
 
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Gabriel Maia said:
A cylinder has rigid, adiabatic and impermeable external walls. It is provided with a mobile internal ideal partition wall, dividing it in two volumes (A and B). Each volume is filled with an ideal monoatomic gas. Initially, the volume, pressure and temperature of A and B are identical (P0,V0,T0). A certain amount of heat is then introduced into A in a quasi-statistical way until the pressure of A is PA=32P0.

Obtain the final volumes VA and VB in terms of V0.

Obtain the final temperatures TA and TB.



This is my problem. Well... first of all, what does it mean a "quasi-statistical heat introduction?". I know the ideal gas internal energy is given by

U=3/2*nRT=3/2*PV and that U=Q-W but without knowing the amount of heat, how can I determine the internal energy and the work done, in order to calculate the new volumes?


Thank you.

quasi-statistical heat introduction means reversibly. How are the pressures in the two chambers related during this process? How does the sum of the volumes of the two chambers change during the process?

Try starting out by focusing on the chamber that is not heated. What type of process does the gas within this chamber experience:
A) Adiabatic reversible
B) Adiabatic irreversible
C) Isothermal reversible
D) Isothermal irreversible
E) Something else

Based on the answers to these questions, what is the final volume of the unheated chamber?
What is the final temperature of the unheated chamber?
What is the final volume of the heated chamber?
Using the ideal gas law, what is the final temperature of the heated chamber?
 
Well... the sum of the volumes is constant. The chamber that are not heated undergoes an adiabatic compression. Therefore, the change in its internal energy is

deltaU = P*deltaV

This pressure P... is it the 32P0 pressure of the heated chamber? Shouldn't it decrease as the wall moves?
 
Gabriel Maia said:
Well... the sum of the volumes is constant. The chamber that are not heated undergoes an adiabatic compression.
Yes. Very good.
Therefore, the change in its internal energy is

deltaU = P*deltaV
No. This is not the equation for the internal energy change in a reversible adiabatic compression. How are pressure and volume related in the reversible adiabatic compression of an ideal monotonic gas?
This pressure P... is it the 32P0 pressure of the heated chamber? Shouldn't it decrease as the wall moves?

No. The gas is being compressed, so the pressure in the unheated chamber should increase from P0 to 32P0. This should give you enough information to get the final volume of the unheated chamber in terms of V0.

Chet
 

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