Engineering Thermodynamics, Calculating the required mass flow

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The discussion centers on calculating mass flow for a thermodynamics problem, where the initial calculations yielded an unexpectedly large mass flow rate. Participants pointed out potential errors in the original calculations, including confusion over variable notation and questioned the math behind the results. The specific heat capacity of air was clarified, and a corrected mass flow rate of 84,577 kg/s was provided, though it was acknowledged as unrealistic for cooling a power plant solely with air. The consensus is that while the calculations may be mathematically correct, the scenario presented is impractical, highlighting issues with the problem's formulation. The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of the assistance received.
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1-A power plant generates 150 MW of electrical power. It uses a supply of 1000 MW from a geothermal source and rejects energy to the atmosphere through a cooling tower.
Determine:
a) The rejected power to the atmosphere in MW
b) How much air should be flowed to the cooling tower (kg/s) if its temperature cannot be increased more than 10C.
Relevant Equations
Qin-Qout=W
Q=m*cp*(T2-T1)
I have solved this question and it seemed pretty easy, but I got an extremely large number for the mass flow, I had to post the question here to make sure I did it correctly. Any help will be appreciated.
 

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Two Three Four things.

I see a calculation that is hard to decipher:

The 1 in cp= 1.00##\zeta## looks like a 7.​
Your k and K look exactly the same​
And how can 8.5 105 kJ/s divided by 10 kJ/kg yield 17 106 kg/s ? Did you check your math ?​

The last one is more about the exercise: cooling towers evaporate water, they are not air cooled heat exchangers.

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BvU said:
Two Three Four things.

I see a calculation that is hard to decipher:

The 1 in cp= 1.00##\zeta## looks like a 7.​
Your k and K look exactly the same​
And how can 8.5 105 kJ/s divided by 10 kJ/kg yield 17 106 kg/s ? Did you check your math ?​

The last one is more about the exercise: cooling towers evaporate water, they are not air cooled heat exchangers.

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The question is kind of vague so I had to assume lots of things but it clearly says in question: "how much air has to flow... "and when it says :'its temperature", the question is referring to air's temperature. So I'm pretty sure it's being cooled by air.

The cp (specific heat capacity at constant pressure) of air is 1.005kJ/kg*K
The 850MW is 850*10^3 kW.

I can see I messed up the math. So (850*10^3 [kJ/s])/(1.005[kJ/kg*K]*10[K])=84577kg/s
But the mass flow is still unrealistically large.
 
I agree it's unrealistic, but the math is as it is. Also, your answer suggests an unrealistic precision.

But it is unrealistic to cool a power plant with air only, and that is the responsibility of the problem composer, not yours.

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BvU said:
I agree it's unrealistic, but the math is as it is. Also, your answer suggests an unrealistic precision.

But it is unrealistic to cool a power plant with air only, and that is the responsibility of the problem composer, not yours.

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Ok. Thank you for the help
 

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