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Thermodynamics: Efficiency for Stirling engine

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to find an expression for the efficiency of a stirling engine operating with an ideal diatomic gas, and cycling through a volume V and a multiple of its compression ratio, r, Vr.

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processes:

1-2 isothermal expansion
2-3 isochoric cooling
3-4 isothermal compression
4-1 isochoric heating

r=compression ratio
Th=high temperature
Tl=low temperature

Work=W1 proc. 1-2 (nRTh)ln(r)
Work=W2 proc. 3-4 (nRTl)ln(1/r)
Work Net= W1-W2= nRln(r)(Th-Tl) since ln=-ln(1/r)

Heat Input=Qh=nCv(Th-Tl)=(5/2)R(Th-Tl)

Efficiency=e=W Net/Heat Input=[nRln(r)(Th-Tl)]/[(5/2)nR(Th-Tl)

Canceling:e=(5/2)ln(r)

This does not Make sense since efficiency for an engine with an equal compression ration of say r=10 operating at a Temp high of 300k and low of 200k would have a carnot efficiency of (1/3) while with the above equation e=.92 which is impossible.
 

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Heat Input=Qh=nCv(Th-Tl)=(5/2)R(Th-Tl)
You are assuming that heat flow into the gas occurs only in the 4-1 constant volume part. Apply the first law to the isothermal expansion (1-2): ΔQ = ΔU + W;

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Yes, but the heat flow occurring in 2-3 is an out flow so it wouldn't be included in the efficiency calculation which is based on only on the heat input, right?
 
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I believe Qh=5/2*R*n*(Th-Tl)+R*n*Th*ln(r) in the denominator
 
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why is that? isn't nRThln(r) the work done from 1-2?
 
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http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~broholm/l39/node5.html [Broken]

This site might be helpful
 
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why is that? isn't nRThln(r) the work done from 1-2?
Exactly. Since it is isothermal, ΔU = 0. So, by the first law, ΔQ1-2 = W1-2 (where W = the work done BY the gas). You can see from the first law that heat flow into the gas occurs from 4-1 AND from 1-2.

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Yes, but the heat flow occurring in 2-3 is an out flow so it wouldn't be included in the efficiency calculation which is based on only on the heat input, right?
I did not say 2-3. I said 1-2. Apply the first law. You will see that there is positive heat flow into the gas from 1-2.

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