Thermodynamics - Stirling Engine

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The discussion revolves around the Stirling engine, focusing on its thermodynamic processes and efficiency calculations. Participants explore the workings of the engine, particularly the isothermal and isovolumetric processes involved in its cycle.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of work done during the isothermal processes and the implications of volume changes on work. Questions arise regarding the signs associated with work done on or by the gas, and the relationship between the Stirling engine's efficiency and its practical applications.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the conceptual understanding of the Stirling engine's operation, with some participants expressing confusion about specific aspects of the thermodynamic processes. Guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of work and efficiency, and there is a recognition of the practical limitations of Stirling engines in comparison to internal combustion engines.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the practical applications of Stirling engines, including their efficiency compared to commercial engines and their suitability for everyday use. There is an emphasis on understanding the reasons behind the limited adoption of Stirling engines in automotive applications.

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Homework Statement



In 1816, Robert Stirling, a Scottish clergyman, patented
the Stirling engine, which has found a wide variety of applications
ever since. Fuel is burned externally to warm one
of the engine’s two cylinders. A fixed quantity of inert gas
moves cyclically between the cylinders, expanding in the
hot one and contracting in the cold one. Consider
n mol of an ideal monatomic gas being taken once
through the cycle, consisting of two isothermal processes
at temperatures 3Ti and Ti and two constant-volume
processes. Determine in terms of n, R, and Ti (a) the net
energy transferred by heat to the gas and (b) the efficiency
of the engine. A Stirling engine is easier to manufacture
than an internal combustion engine or a turbine.
It can run on burning garbage. It can run on the energy
of sunlight and produce no material exhaust.

Homework Equations


w=-∫PdV
e= w/Qh

The Attempt at a Solution


So for part b I'm a little bit confused as to how to calculate work.

Since two of the processes are isovolumetric the work done by them = 0.
Now this is where I get confused. Doesn't the isothermal process that represents a decrease in the volume translate to work done ON the gas - therefore it should be positive. The solutions manual lists them both with the same sign. If I add my work together I do get the same result (-nRTi ln(4)). So my question I suppose is more conceptual.
How does a decrease in volume represent work done by the engine?
 
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Doesn't the isothermal process that represents a decrease in the volume translate to work done ON the gas - therefore it should be positive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_cycle
... that's how it would normally go.

The solutions manual lists them both with the same sign.
...
compare:
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/78915/efficiency-of-stirling-engine-and-carnots-theorem

The minus and plus signs are not things you plug in, they come out of the definition of mechanical work.
 
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Ah that makes sense. Thank you again Simon!

No, I know the signs come from the definition but I was getting confused as to what was going on. Now that I've seen HOW a Stirling engine works it makes sense. I didn't really understand it in class when the professor was showing examples.
 
They are kinda fun to build too...
... anyway - well done :)
 
Yeah I really want to give it a shot. If I have time this summer I will attempt to build one that runs between the temperature difference of ice and a warm room :).
 
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can we use this engine for daily uses??
 
Depens on the uses.
There are commercial stirling engines for eg.
 
But ,can it be more efficient than commercial one?
 
Depends on the commercial one you want to compare it with.
There will almost certainly be commercial sterling engines that are more efficient than one you can build yourself - but I don't know you, it may be that you have access to a high tech engineering lab.
 
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Thanks simon,

Actually i am working on stirling engine project in which at primary stage we are trying to know

"why stirling engine Is not first choice for car engines"

so ,
can u there to help me?
 
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Stirling engines are not practical for car engines. Part of the project is, presumably for you to discover why.
To do that you need to figure out what the special advantages would be and then examine actual engines to compare.
An equally valid question which sheds light on your one is why the internal combustion engine is preferred for cars in the first place.

Quite a lot has been written on why Stirling engines are not in more widespread use and when you build one you'll probably discover several of the reasons for yourself. It took me less than a day of googling to answer your questions: our time here is better spent dealing with where you don't understand the existing writing than repeating it.
 

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