Thermodynamics of open soda can

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final temperature of CO2 from an open soda can under adiabatic conditions, with an initial pressure (Pi) of 3 bar and a specific heat capacity (Cp) of 37 J/mol*K. The user attempts to apply the first law of thermodynamics and the ideal gas law but encounters difficulties in determining the initial and final temperatures (T1 and T2). Key equations include the adiabatic relation (T2/T1)^(Cp/R) = Pext/P1 and the integration of the ideal gas law to express pressure in terms of temperature. The conversation emphasizes the need to substitute pressure before integration to simplify the problem.

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Homework Statement


C02 from a can of soda expands irreversibly against the atmospher. Assume the process is adiabatic and Pi = 3 bar. Assume C02 to be an ideal gas with Cp = 37 j/mol*K. Find the final temperature of CO2 after it has reached atmospheric pressure.

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Homework Equations


Adiabatic implies dq = 0
constant Pext implies dw = -Pext dV
Ideal gas implies dU = CvdT
1st Law gives dU = -Pext dV
we go from here

The Attempt at a Solution



nCvdT = -Pext dV

integrating
nCv(T2-T1) = -Pext (V2-V1)

using PV=nRT the above equation reduces
nT2(Cv+R) = nT1(Cv+Pext*R/P1)

we can take Pext/T2 = P1/T1 ?? but this system does not yield a solution for T1, T2

here is were I am stuck seeing as how I don't know T1 or T2 (obviously n's cancel out)

If we take the can as the system
the first law energy balance gives

dU/dt = -dn_out/dt * H

this reduces to the standard adiabatic equation

(T2/T1)^Cp/R = Pext/P1

an attempt with the concervation of mass yields
dn/dt = -dn_out/dt we can sub in the ideal gas equation for n and get
d(p/T)/dt = -dn_out/dt * R/nV but I don't think we know anything about n or dn_out/dt

so I am stuck, help please!

Thanks
 
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I think it's before you integrate is your problem. Use ideal gas law to sub for pext.
 

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