Thermodynamics Pathria Eq.4.5.9

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The discussion centers on the derivation of Equation 4.5.9 from Pathria's thermodynamics textbook, specifically addressing the variables that define the average internal energy U. The key variables include temperature T, chemical potential (expressed through fugacity z), volume V, and particle number N. The participants clarify that only three of these four parameters are necessary to specify U, and they detail the differentiation process required to arrive at Equation 4.5.9. The final expression for dU is derived by equating two forms of the differential and applying the appropriate conditions.

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I'm confused about the mathematics that led to the equation 4.5.9.

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Specifically, I'm confused about what the variables that describe U are.

From the equation

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I think temperature T(through beta), chemical potential (through alpha), V (through E_s) and N (through... restriction on the summation?) defines the (average) internal energy U,

but how should I do the differentiation? What I ended up was that the chemical potential dependence can be changed to the dependence on the fugacity z so that

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but it doesn't seem to be exactly eq.4.5.9 to me.
 

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I have the answer. It's going to take me a few minutes to write out the partial derivatives in Latex... ## \\ ## ## z=z(T, N,V) ##, so that ## U(T,z,V)=U(T,N,V) ## . ## \\ ## Three parameters are need to specify ## U ##, not 4 . Any 3 of the 4, (##z,T,N,V ##), can be chosen.## \\ ## Now using the first expression for ## U ##, ## \\ ## ## dU=(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{T}})_{z,V} \, dT+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{z}})_{V,T} \, dz+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{V}})_{z,T} \, dV ##. ## \\ ## Taking the second expression: ## \\ ## ## dU=(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{T}})_{N,V} \, dT+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{N}})_{V,T} \, dN+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{V}})_{N,T} \, dV ##. ## \\ ## Now, set ## dz=0 ## and ## dV=0 ##, and set the two ## dU's ## equal. Take a partial w.r.t. ## T ## at constant ## z,V ##, (we set ## dz ## and ## dV=0 ## ), =divide through by ## dT ## everywhere, and the result is the equation 4.5.9. ## \\ ## @Chestermiller This is a good thermodynamics problem that the OP has. Might you have anything to add?
 
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@IcedCoffee You have a very interesting question, but so far you haven't returned to see the answer.
 

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