Thermodynamics - Work done per unit mass

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of mechanical work per unit mass for a sample of dry air undergoing various thermodynamic processes, specifically focusing on isochoric, isobaric, and isothermal conditions. The initial state is defined by a pressure of 1000 hPa and a temperature of 300 K, transitioning to a final pressure of 500 hPa while maintaining the temperature in some scenarios.

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  • Participants explore different methods for calculating work done in various thermodynamic processes, questioning the assumptions about pressure and temperature during each step.

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Some participants have offered insights into the integration process required for calculating work, while others are clarifying the conditions under which pressure remains constant. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between pressure, specific volume, and temperature, particularly in the context of isothermal processes.

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Participants are encouraged to consider the definitions of specific volume and the implications of holding pressure constant in different scenarios. There is also mention of needing to determine values for specific volumes s1 and s2, as well as the relevance of the gas constant in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A sample of dry air has initial pressure p1 = 1000 hPa and temperature T1 = 300k. It undergoes a process that takes it to a new pressure p2 = 500 hPa with unchanged temperature T2 = T1. Compute the mechanical work per unit mass performed by the sample under the following scenarios:
a) Isochoric pressure reduction to p2 followed by isobaric expansion to final state.
b) Isobaric expansion to final specific volume s2 followed by isochoric pressure reduction to final state.
c) Isothermal expansion to final state.

Homework Equations



work = ∫pds
s = Volume/mass

The Attempt at a Solution



a) I think pressure held constant at 500 and the integral preformed between s1 and s2, to get -500*(s2-s1).

b) The integral is ∫p(s)ds with limits s1 to s2 from to give p(s)*(s2-s1), then evaluate at p = 500 for the same result ?

c) The previous two were isothermal?
 
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davcrai said:

Homework Statement



A sample of dry air has initial pressure p1 = 1000 hPa and temperature T1 = 300k. It undergoes a process that takes it to a new pressure p2 = 500 hPa with unchanged temperature T2 = T1. Compute the mechanical work per unit mass performed by the sample under the following scenarios:
a) Isochoric pressure reduction to p2 followed by isobaric expansion to final state.
b) Isobaric expansion to final specific volume s2 followed by isochoric pressure reduction to final state.
c) Isothermal expansion to final state.

Homework Equations



work = ∫pds
s = Volume/mass

The Attempt at a Solution



a) I think pressure held constant at 500 and the integral preformed between s1 and s2, to get -500*(s2-s1).
Looks reasonable so far, but you need to figure out values for s1 and s2. Also, watch the units.

b) The integral is ∫p(s)ds with limits s1 to s2 from to give p(s)*(s2-s1), then evaluate at p = 500 for the same result ?
The pressure is not 500 hPa for this one; the first step is isobaric in this case. Try drawing yourself a PV diagram, to help figure out what is going on.

c) The previous two were isothermal?
Um, no, they were not. There were two steps, one isochoric and one isobaric. So the temperature changed during processes (a) and (b), even though it ended up at the initial temperature.

This time, it is isothermal during the entire process.
 


ok, so I think for the second one you hold p constant at 1000hPa for the integration then evaluate between s1 and s2?
Still unsure about the third one?
 


davcrai said:
ok, so I think for the second one you hold p constant at 1000hPa for the integration then evaluate between s1 and s2?
Yes. You'll also need to figure out what s1 and s2 are.
Still unsure about the third one?
You need to find an equation that relates P and s, using the fact that T=constant. (Hint: the substance is air, and air is a gas.)

Once you have the relation between P and s, do the integral ∫p·ds.
 


Hmmm, might it include density and a gas constant by any chance...
Thanks
 


It would definitely include the gas constant.
 

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