Thevenin Equivalent: HW Problem Solution Check

[mugzieee]

i have an attempted solution to a HW problem, and I want to know if it is right or wrong. Could you guys please help me out. I have attached the image as a pdf

 

[doodle]

Before you can actually start solving the problem, you will need to identify firstly the two points A and B for which the Thevenin equivalent circuit is defined. So where are these points upon which you want to find the Thevenin equivalent circuit? Across the 10k resistor?

 

[mugzieee]

Before you can actually start solving the problem, you will need to identify firstly the two points A and B for which the Thevenin equivalent circuit is defined. So where are these points upon which you want to find the Thevenin equivalent circuit? Across the 10k resistor?

if you look at the second circuit i have labeled the two nodes V_A and V_AB, those are the two nodes in which i am going to do nodal analysis in.

 

[teknodude]

I didn't calculate the Vth, but your work nodal analysis looks correct to me. On a side note, you didn't really need to convert the mA to A or the kohms to ohms. The prefixes will cancel giving you V during the calculations. Now find Rth to complete the problem.

 

[mugzieee]

I didn't calculate the Vth, but your work nodal analysis looks correct to me. On a side note, you didn't really need to convert the mA to A or the kohms to ohms. The prefixes will cancel giving you V during the calculations. Now find Rth to complete the problem.

GREAT! thanks teknodude!

 

[doodle]

if you look at the second circuit i have labeled the two nodes V_A and V_AB, those are the two nodes in which i am going to do nodal analysis in.

I have a few concerns.

1. Why remove the 10k resistor? Shouldn't the load resistor (if there should be one) be lying between the two points where the Thevenin equivalent circuit is defined?

2. I don't think V_{AB} = V_{Th} as you have written in the solution. If the Thevenin equivalent circuit is to be determined across nodes AB and A, then V_{Th} = V_{AB} - V_A.

 

[mugzieee]

I have a few concerns.

1. Why remove the 10k resistor? Shouldn't the load resistor (if there should be one) be lying between the two points where the Thevenin equivalent circuit is defined?

2. I don't think V_{AB} = V_{Th} as you have written in the solution. If the Thevenin equivalent circuit is to be determined across nodes AB and A, then V_{Th} = V_{AB} - V_A.

you may be right about the load resistor lying betwen the two points. But even if i don't remove the load resistor, and use the same technique to find V_AB, then id still have the same equations because there would still be no current through the 10k resistor.

 

[doodle]

That's true. But you should let the 10k resistor be and V_{Th} should be as I stated above.