This just seems so simple so I think I'm doing it wrong (Algebra)

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The discussion revolves around algebraic proofs related to polynomial functions and their derivatives, specifically focusing on the properties of function transformations and divisibility in the context of a take-home final exam problem.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove specific properties of a polynomial function and its derivatives, questioning whether their reasoning is correct. Some participants explore the implications of different starting indices in the derivative calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, with some affirming the correctness of the approach while others express doubt and reconsider their calculations. There is a mix of validation and uncertainty regarding the interpretations of the polynomial derivatives.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of derivative rules and the assumptions made about the indices in the polynomial terms. The original poster expresses concern about the simplicity of their solution, suggesting a potential oversight in their reasoning.

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This is a problem from a take home final I turned in two day ago... I'm wondering if I got it right.

For [tex]f= \sum_{i=0}a_{i}x^{i}[/tex], set [tex]f^{(s)}= \sum_{i=0}a_{i}x^{si}[/tex].

4a. Prove that for integers [tex]n_{1}...n_{t}[/tex], [tex](f^{(n_{1}...n_{t-1})})^{(n_{t})} = f^{(n_{1}...n_{t})}[/tex].

[tex](f^{(n)})^{(m)}= \left( \sum_{i=0} a_{i}x^{ni} \right)^{(m)} = \sum_{i=0} a_{i}x^{mni}[/tex]

So, [tex](f^{(n_{1}...n_{t-1})})^{(n_{t})} = f^{(n_{1}...n_{t})}[/tex].

4b. Prove that if f divides [tex]f^{(n_{i})}[/tex] for each [tex]n_{i}[/tex], then f divides [tex]f^{(n_{1}...n_{t})}[/tex]

Since every term is only assuming higher powers, using the result in 4b, we can factor out [tex]x^{(n_{1}...n_{i-1}n_{i+1}...n_{t})}[/tex] we have: [tex]f^{(n_{1}...n_{t})} = x^{(n_{1}...n_{i-1}n_{i+1}...n_{t})}(f^{(n_{i})})[/tex]. f divides [tex]f^{(n_{i})}[/tex] so f divides [tex]f^{(n_{1}...n_{t})}[/tex].---

It just seemed too simple... am I missing something here?
 
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Looks right to me.
 
WAIT

If [tex]f = 2+ x+ 4x^{3} = 2x^{0} + x^{1}+ 4x^{3}[/tex] then [tex]f^{(2)} = 2x^{0*2} + x^{1*2}+ 4x^{3*2}= 2x^{0} + x^{2}+ 4x^{6} = 2 + x^{2}+ 4x^{6}[/tex] NOT [tex]2x^{2} + x^{3}+ 4x^{5}[/tex]Ugggg... I think I messed this up big time. :(
 
You're right! If i starts from 1, everything works out though.
 
I think I'm going to fail this take home now... I should have done some examples before turning it it.
 

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