Thought experiment for general rel., I can't remember how it goes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a thought experiment related to general relativity, specifically involving the transmission of a light signal between two astronauts in an accelerating spaceship. The inquiry seeks to understand how the behavior of the light signal differs in an accelerating frame compared to a constant velocity frame.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a thought experiment involving a light pulse sent from the front to the back of an accelerating spaceship and questions how this compares to a constant velocity scenario.
  • Another participant suggests that the thought experiment may relate to gravitational time dilation and the equivalence principle, noting that the Doppler effect would cause a frequency shift in the light detected at the back of the accelerating rocket.
  • A third participant provides a link to a related discussion on the equivalence principle in general relativity, implying that it may contain relevant information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants explore different aspects of the thought experiment and its implications without resolving the initial inquiry.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the initial description of the thought experiment, including potential missing details about the setup and the specific conditions under which the light signal is analyzed.

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There is a thought experiment pertaining to general relativity that involves a signal traveling from the front to the back of an accelerating space ship, if I remember correctly. I'm sorry for being so vague, but this is something I saw browsing in a library years ago, and I really wanted to think about it, but it slipped out of my mind and now I'm not sure how it goes. I believe that astronaut 1 in the front of the ship sends a pulse of light towards astronaut 2 in the back of the ship. The question is, I believe, how does the transit of this pulse compare to the same pulse in a ship that is moving at a constant velocity instead of accelerating. I'm not sure how much of this I have right but there is a thought experiment with a signal involving two astronauts in the front and back of a spaceship that is accelerating. Can someone lead me to this thought experiment and a discussion? Thank you so much. Sorry for the vagueness. ericqb
 
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I think you are interested in the proof of gravitational time dilation using the equivalence principle. If a light of a certain frequency is emitted at the front of an accelerating rocket then by the time the light reaches a detector at the back of the rocket the detector will be going a different velocity and by the Doppler effect will detect a higher frequency. Therefore, by the equivalence principle a rocket sitting vertically in a gravity field will also detect blueshift for light emitted at the front and detected at the back.
 
Dear DaleSpam,

Thank you for your help. Sorry it took me so long to reply.

ericqb
 

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