Thoughts about Keith R Symon's textbook

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The discussion centers on the suitability of Keith R. Symon's textbook for undergraduate students transitioning from John R. Taylor's classical mechanics. Participants confirm that Symon's textbook is comparable in rigor to Marion and Thornton's "Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems" (M&T) and recommend it for building a solid foundation in classical mechanics. Users suggest that completing M&T is sufficient preparation for tackling Goldstein's "Classical Mechanics," although not all chapters are necessary for standard courses. The consensus is that Symon's book is a valuable resource, albeit less commonly known today.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of classical mechanics principles from John R. Taylor's textbook.
  • Familiarity with Marion and Thornton's "Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems" (M&T).
  • Basic knowledge of canonical transformations and Hamilton-Jacobi theory.
  • Awareness of the structure and content of Goldstein's "Classical Mechanics."
NEXT STEPS
  • Explore Keith R. Symon's textbook for classical mechanics.
  • Review Marion and Thornton's "Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems" for advanced problem-solving.
  • Study Goldstein's "Classical Mechanics" to understand its approach and content.
  • Investigate Greenwood's textbook for a more concise treatment of classical mechanics topics.
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Undergraduate physics students, educators in classical mechanics, and anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of classical dynamics before advancing to solid mechanics and quantum mechanics.

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Hello there, I am an undergraduate student in my final year. I have been using classical mechanics by John R Taylor, which I should say I have absolutely enjoyed working through so far. I now feel I am prepared for a slightly more challenging set of problems and mathematical rigour. My professor suggested to me this textbook, https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201073927/?tag=pfamazon01-20.
Having never used nor heard of this book(no offence intended to enthusiasts, if any at all :smile:), I would greatle appreciate your thoughts about this book. I thank you all in advance.
 
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Shyan said:

I have worked through M&T in a lot of detail. I am only left with the problems from continuous systems and special relativity. The aim is to work through Goldstein's as soon as possible. I felt I needed an abridgement before I begin Goldstein's. Do you reckon M&T would be enough? Can I start Goldstein's if I have worked through M&T and Taylor's?
 
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Bleakfacade said:
I have worked through M&T in a lot of detail. I am only left with the problems from continuous systems and special relativity. The aim is to work through Goldstein's as soon as possible. I felt I needed an abridgement before I begin Goldstein's. Do you reckon M&T would be enough? Can I start Goldstein's if I have worked through M&T and Taylor's?

I think you'll have no problem if you try hard enough. You won't need to cover all chapters of the Goldstein though because the chapters on canonical transformations, Hamilton-Jacobi theory, Chaos and Perturbation theory are not part of standard courses on classical mechanics.
 
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alan2 said:
If you've finished Marion and understood it I suggest https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486696901/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Can't go wrong at the price. Some people might like Goldstein but I find it a bit verbose. Greenwood gets to the point.

Thank you Alan, I will go through this book.

@Shyan: The intention is to go into the very heart of classical mechanics. I want to have a well hardened foundation before I start solid mechanics and Quantum mechanics. However, I appreciate your advice.
 
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Symon is a good classical mechanics textbook at roughly the same level as Marion and Thornton. I recommend it. It may be a little harder to find than Marion. I used it to for my qualifying exam in the 1970's. It is not as well known these days but your professor was right to recommend it.
 

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