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The discussion revolves around three indefinite integrals involving the exponential function \( e^x \). Participants explore various methods for solving these integrals, including integration by parts and substitution techniques. The conversation includes both technical reasoning and attempts to clarify the problems presented.
Participants express differing views on the appropriate methods for solving the integrals, particularly regarding the use of integration by parts. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple competing methods are discussed.
Some participants mention potential typos and the need for clarity in the problems presented, indicating that assumptions about the integrals may not be fully resolved. The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence in the proposed methods.
MarkFL said:I have moved this thread as it involved integral calculus, and I have given it a descriptive title so that people looking at the thread listing can see at a glance the nature of the questions being asked. For future reference we also ask that no more than two questions be posted in a thread so that it does not potentially become convoluted and hard to follow.
In order for us to be able to help you, we need to see what you have tried so we know where you are stuck. Can you post your work so far?
MarkFL said:I suspect there is a typo in the first problem, as it involves a hypergeometric anti-derivative, so let's look at the second one:
$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^x}{x+e^{-x}}\,dx$$
My first thought here is to multiply the integrand by $$1=\frac{e^x}{e^x}$$ to get:
$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^{2x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$
Now, if we look at the denominator, and see that by differentiation, we obtain:
$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(xe^x+1\right)=xe^x+e^x=e^x(x+1)$$
And then observe that we may write our integral as:
$$I=\int\frac{e^x\left(x+1\right)xe^{x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$
Now, I think we are ready to try integration by parts...can you see what substitutions you should try?