MHB Three indefinite integrals involving e^x

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The discussion centers on solving three indefinite integrals involving e^x, particularly focusing on one integral that requires careful manipulation. Participants emphasize the importance of showing prior work to identify where assistance is needed. The integrand is transformed by multiplying by a strategic factor, leading to a reformulation that simplifies the integration process. Integration by parts is initially considered but later deemed unnecessary as a more straightforward substitution method is suggested. The conversation highlights the collaborative effort to clarify complex calculus problems and refine problem-solving techniques.
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I have moved this thread as it involved integral calculus, and I have given it a descriptive title so that people looking at the thread listing can see at a glance the nature of the questions being asked. For future reference we also ask that no more than two questions be posted in a thread so that it does not potentially become convoluted and hard to follow.

In order for us to be able to help you, we need to see what you have tried so we know where you are stuck. Can you post your work so far?
 
MarkFL said:
I have moved this thread as it involved integral calculus, and I have given it a descriptive title so that people looking at the thread listing can see at a glance the nature of the questions being asked. For future reference we also ask that no more than two questions be posted in a thread so that it does not potentially become convoluted and hard to follow.

In order for us to be able to help you, we need to see what you have tried so we know where you are stuck. Can you post your work so far?

Thank you a lot :)
Next time I'll pay more attention
 
I suspect there is a typo in the first problem, as it involves a hypergeometric anti-derivative, so let's look at the second one:

$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^x}{x+e^{-x}}\,dx$$

My first thought here is to multiply the integrand by $$1=\frac{e^x}{e^x}$$ to get:

$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^{2x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$

Now, if we look at the denominator, and see that by differentiation, we obtain:

$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(xe^x+1\right)=xe^x+e^x=e^x(x+1)$$

And then observe that we may write our integral as:

$$I=\int\frac{e^x\left(x+1\right)xe^{x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$

Now, I think we are ready to try integration by parts...can you see what substitutions you should try?
 
MarkFL said:
I suspect there is a typo in the first problem, as it involves a hypergeometric anti-derivative, so let's look at the second one:

$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^x}{x+e^{-x}}\,dx$$

My first thought here is to multiply the integrand by $$1=\frac{e^x}{e^x}$$ to get:

$$I=\int\frac{\left(x^2+x\right)e^{2x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$

Now, if we look at the denominator, and see that by differentiation, we obtain:

$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(xe^x+1\right)=xe^x+e^x=e^x(x+1)$$

And then observe that we may write our integral as:

$$I=\int\frac{e^x\left(x+1\right)xe^{x}}{xe^x+1}\,dx$$

Now, I think we are ready to try integration by parts...can you see what substitutions you should try?

Integration by parts? Really?

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{\mathrm{e}^x\,\left( x + 1 \right) \, x\,\mathrm{e}^x}{x\,\mathrm{e}^x + 1} \,\mathrm{d}x} \end{align*}$

Let $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = x\,\mathrm{e}^x + 1 \implies \mathrm{d}u = \mathrm{e}^x \, \left( x + 1 \right) \,\mathrm{d}x \end{align*}$ and the integral becomes

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{u - 1}{u}\,\mathrm{d}u } &= \int{ 1 - \frac{1}{u}\,\mathrm{d}u} \end{align*}$

I don't see why we would need it :P
 
Yes, I am guilty of thinking IBP was what we would need before I even started, and so I "painted the bullseye" around where my arrow landed...hehehe.
 
For the third one, I would divide the numerator and denominator of the integrand by $x$ to obtain:

$$I=\int\frac{e^x+\frac{1}{x}}{e^x+\ln(x)}\,dx$$

Now, do you see an appropriate $u$-substitution?
 

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