Three Point Charges, find the electric force exerted

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The problem involves three point charges located at the corners of a square, with the task of determining the electric force exerted on a fourth charge placed at another corner. The charges include two positive and one negative charge, and the setup is defined within a coordinate system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces between the charges, including the use of Coulomb's law. There are attempts to clarify the distances and directions of the forces involved. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of specific calculations and the values used for the charges.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, checking calculations and questioning assumptions about the values used. Some have identified potential errors in the computations, particularly regarding the distance calculations and the values of the charges.

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There is a mention of a diagram being drawn to visualize the problem, and participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement without additional information. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to identify and correct errors in reasoning and calculations.

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Homework Statement


Three charges, each of magnitude 2 nC, are at separate corners of a square of edge length 1 cm. The two charges at opposite corners are positive, and the other charge is negative. Find the force exerted by these charges on a fourth charge q = +3 nC at the remaining (upper right) corner. (Assume the +x axis is directed to the right and the +y axis is directed upward.)


Homework Equations


k = (8.988*10^9 N*m^2/C^2)


The Attempt at a Solution



Drew a diagram of the problem such that F4 = F1,4 + F2,4 + F 3,4.

F1,4 = (k*q1*q4)/(r(1,4)^2)j

F1,4 = (8.988*10^9 N*m^2/C^2)(2.00*10^-9)*((2.00*10^-9)/(0.01m)^2)

= 3.595 * 10^-4 j

F2,4 = same

F3,4 = (k*q1*q2)/(r(2,4)^2)*r(3,4)

r(3,4) = r(3,1) + r(1,4) = (0.01m)i + (0.01m)j

r(3,4) = (0.01m)i+(0.01m)j/(sqrt(0.01m^2+0.01m^2)) = 0.14i + 0.14j

F3,4 = (8.988*10^9) (-2.00*10^-9)(2.00*10^-9)/(0.01sqrt(2)^2)*(0.14i+0.14j)

= -2.52 * 10 ^ -5

(3.595 * 10^-4) i - (-2.52*10^-5) i = 3.34*10^-4i <--- Wrong :(
(3.595 * 10^-4) j - (-2.52*10^-5) j = 3.34*10^-4j <--- Wrong :(


Any suggestions?? I think that somewhere in computing F3,4 I put in an incorrect number. Thanks!
 
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m00nbeam360 said:
r(3,4) = (0.01m)i+(0.01m)j/(sqrt(0.01m^2+0.01m^2)) = 0.14i + 0.14j

Check this.
 
Whoa, got .707 now, thanks. So then is everything else correct?
 
m00nbeam360 said:
F1,4 = (k*q1*q4)/(r(1,4)^2)j

F1,4 = (8.988*10^9 N*m^2/C^2)(2.00*10^-9)*((2.00*10^-9)/(0.01m)^2)

= 3.595 * 10^-4 j

Did you use the correct value for q4 here?
 

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