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- Homework Statement
- See attached images.
- Relevant Equations
- ##\Delta p \Delta x \geq \frac{h}{4\pi}##
The discussion revolves around quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the uncertainty principle and related concepts. Participants are examining inequalities, time calculations, and the implications of uncertainty in various physical quantities.
The discussion is active, with participants raising multiple questions and exploring different interpretations of the uncertainty principle. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for relevant equations and the nature of the time-energy uncertainty relation, but no consensus has emerged on the interpretations being discussed.
Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of time in quantum mechanics, as well as the assumptions underlying the inequalities presented. There is a mention of homework constraints and the expectation of demonstrating effort in the discussion.
schniefen said:Homework Statement: See attached images.
Homework Equations: ΔpΔx≥h4πΔpΔx≥h4π
View attachment 252715 Is the last inequality correct? Should it not be |A|2⋅2(1+cos(ka))|A|2⋅2(1+cos(ka))?View attachment 252716 How is the time calculated here? Given Δv>10−34Δv>10−34...View attachment 252717 How come mvΔv=Δ(mv22)mvΔv=Δ(mv22)? Where does the (1/2)(1/2) come from?
If you extend that notion of a differential to a derivative, with respect to time, then all should be clear.schniefen said:Regarding 3, ##mv \Delta v=\Delta (mv^2)##, but where does the last equality follow from?
The logic is that the uncertainty in ##x## has an associated minimum uncertainty in momentum, hence energy; and you apply the energy-time uncertainty relation.schniefen said:Why would ##\Delta t > \frac{4\pi(\Delta x)^2}{h}## give the time it takes for ##\Delta x## to double? Where is the factor ##2\Delta x##?
The logic is this. You start with an uncertainty in ##x## in the classical sense. You apply the HUP to get an uncertainty in ##v##. You interpret this as a classical uncertainty. You multiply the uncertainty in ##v## by ##\Delta t## to get a further, classical, uncertainty in ##x##.schniefen said:Why would ##\Delta t > \frac{4\pi(\Delta x)^2}{h}## give the time it takes for ##\Delta x## to double? Where is the factor ##2\Delta x##?