Tidal Float Generates Electricity: Is it Practical?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the practicality of using a tidal float to generate electricity. Participants explore various methods of harnessing tidal energy, comparing the proposed float system to other established tidal and wave energy technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the float can generate enough electricity to be practical given its limited motion, suggesting that submerged turbines in ocean currents may be more effective.
  • One participant proposes a mechanism where the float's motion could be enhanced by using an enclosed tube to allow a ball to fall, potentially increasing the energy output.
  • Another participant argues that the proposed system only utilizes the mass of water equivalent to the volume of the sphere, contrasting it with tidal barrage systems that harness the mass of all water in tidal flows.
  • Some participants reference existing technologies, such as Salter's ducks and wave power systems, as alternatives that might be more effective.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the implications of tidal energy on day length, with one participant expressing concern over longer days and another suggesting that longer nights could be a benefit.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited displacement of water by a single float and the economic viability of tidal power generation compared to larger systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the effectiveness and practicality of the tidal float concept, with no consensus reached on its viability compared to other methods of tidal energy generation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the proposed float system, including its reliance on the volume of water displaced and the economic challenges associated with tidal energy generation.

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could this float generate enough electricity to be practical
 

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Up and down only twice a day isn't very much motion. To make the ocean work for us, I would prefer to see submerged turbines in the paths of the major ocean currents, like the Gulf Steam that flows continuously from the Florida strait to Newfoundland.
 
as slow as the tide is it would float the ball up and attaced rod's teeth would turn a transmission attached to a generator. if this can't get the rpms then possibly float the ball up in an enclosed tube locking drain at bottom then in 6 hours releasing ball to fall at arranged speed possible i hope
 
You are only using a mass of water equivalent to the volume of the sphere - you system is exactly the same as somebody filling an empty sphere with water every tide and using the downward motion.

A tidal barrage system uses the mass of ALL the water contained in each tide flow.
A system like yours can be used with waves, where it will generate energy on each wave - see Salter's ducks
 
I am against using tidal waves for electricity generation. I don't want days to become longer and longer.
 
But the nights get longer as well so you get a lie-in every morning!
 
Have a look at the wiki for tidal power: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power

A single float just doesn't displace enough mass of water to generate much power. The typical ways tidal power is generated are able to harness the entire mass of water moved in a large area such as a bay. And even then, the economics aren't great.
 

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