Time Dependent Current in a Wire

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time-dependent magnetic flux through a wire, involving concepts from electromagnetism and calculus. Participants are examining the integration of magnetic field strength over a specified area to determine the flux.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral for magnetic flux, questioning the use of single versus double integrals. There is a focus on the relationship between the magnetic field and the area being integrated.

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Some participants have provided insights into the correct interpretation of the area element in the integral, suggesting that the area should be defined in terms of width rather than length. There is an acknowledgment of different interpretations regarding the integration process.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of using different dimensions for area and the assumptions related to the magnetic field's uniformity across the area of interest. There is also a mention of homework constraints regarding the use of specific formulas and integration techniques.

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flux=\intB dA from .31m to .82
B=u I(enclosed)/2(pi)(d)
d=x
dA=dx L
so ∫ (u)(I)(L)dx / 2(pi)(x) from .31m to .82m remember x=d in the pic. My answer is 3.9687e-7 and its wrong

integral came out to be (u)(I)(L)/2pi (ln(.82) - ln(.31))
u=4(pi)e-7
I=4A
 

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Flop880 said:

Homework Statement



Problem is attached

Homework Equations



A formula sheet is also attached

The Attempt at a Solution



flux=\intB dA from .31m to .82
That "dA" indicates an area - so why is this not a double integral?

B=u I(enclosed)/2(pi)(d)
d=x
dA=dx L
so ∫ (u)(I)(L)dx / 2(pi)(x) from .31m to .82m remember x=d in the pic. My answer is 3.9687e-7 and its wrong
I don't think you've used the formula correctly or you got confused between two different uses.
$$B=\frac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi d}$$... would be the magnetic field strength a distance d from a long straight wire.

The magnetic flux through area dA at position (x,y) would be ##d\Phi = B(x,y,t)\;dA##
You'd have to integrate over the whole LxW area to find the total flux.
 
I just got the right answer by multiplying by the width, not length. so dA= dx w, since dx is the length that's changing times the width which gives area. What do you mean by double integral? Doesn't that give volume?
 
Well done.

note:
Triple integrals give volume. dV=dx.dy.dz,

dA=W.dx is only true when the thing you are integrating does not vary with y
- which is what you have.
 
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