Time-dependent perturbation theory: hydrogen atom in electric field

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The discussion revolves around a hydrogen atom in its ground state subjected to a weak electric field, specifically examining the probability of finding the atom in any of the n=2 states using first order perturbation theory. The electric field is defined as zero for t < 0 and follows an exponential decay for t > 0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up the Schrödinger equation in spherical coordinates and incorporating the perturbation related to the electric field. There are evaluations of the matrix elements for transitions from the ground state to various n=2 states, with specific attention given to the dipole selection rules and the implications of the perturbation's form.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the transition probabilities to the 2p state with m=0, while noting that transitions to the 2s state and the 2p states with m=±1 yield zero probabilities. The discussion reflects an exploration of the dipole selection rules and their applicability to the problem at hand.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the uniform electric field's decay and its potential impact on the selection rules for dipole transitions, indicating that assumptions about the perturbation's form are being critically examined.

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Homework Statement



A Hydrogen atom in its ground state (n,l,m) = (1,0,0) is placed in a weak electric fieldE(t) = 0 if t < 0
Eo *e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}}if t > 0E is in the positive z direction

What is the probability that it will be found in any of the n=2 states at time t > 0 ? use first order perturbation theory

Homework Equations



C^{(1)}_{ba} = \frac{1}{(i\hbar)} \int^t_0 H&#039;_{ba} e^{iw_{ba}t&#039;}dt&#039;

where H&#039;_{ba} is the (b,a) matrix element of the perturbation and w_{ba} = \frac{(E^{(0)}_b - E^{(0)}_a)}{\hbar}

The Attempt at a Solution



so basically i set up the Schrödinger equation in spherical coordinates and added the perturbation H&#039; = e*Eo *e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}}*rcos{\theta}

where e is the magnitude of the charge charge of an electron. i then evaluated C_{ba} for a = 1s and b = 2s, 2p0, 2p1, 2p-1 all separately.

i got H&#039;_{ba} = 0 for everything except 2p0, so the coefficients will be 0, for 2p0 i got this for the coefficient:

(\frac{e*Eo}{i\hbar3\sqrt{2}a^4_{\mu}})(\int^{\infty}_0 r^4 e^{\frac{-3r}{2a_{\mu}}}dr)(\frac{1}{\frac{i3\mu e^4}{128\pi^2 \epsilon^2_o\hbar^3} - \frac{1}{\tau}})(e^{t(\frac{i3\mu e^4}{128\pi^2\epsilon^2_0\hbar^3}-\frac{1}{\tau}]}-1)
<br /> a_{\mu} =\frac{4\pi\epsilon_o\hbar^2}{\mu e^2}<br />
<br /> \mu = reduced massand then just take the absolute value squared to get the probability of being found in that state at time t. i was wondering if i did this right? also sorry about using e for the exponential and the charge, if it has variables in its power then its the exponential, otherwise its charge.
 
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adjklx said:

Homework Statement



A Hydrogen atom in its ground state (n,l,m) = (1,0,0) is placed in a weak electric field


E(t) = 0 if t < 0
Eo *e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}}if t > 0


E is in the positive z direction

What is the probability that it will be found in any of the n=2 states at time t > 0 ? use first order perturbation theory

Homework Equations



C^{(1)}_{ba} = \frac{1}{(i\hbar)} \int^t_0 H&#039;_{ba} e^{iw_{ba}t&#039;}dt&#039;

where H&#039;_{ba} is the (b,a) matrix element of the perturbation and w_{ba} = \frac{(E^{(0)}_b - E^{(0)}_a)}{\hbar}



The Attempt at a Solution



so basically i set up the Schrödinger equation in spherical coordinates and added the perturbation H&#039; = e*Eo *e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}}*rcos{\theta}

where e is the magnitude of the charge charge of an electron. i then evaluated C_{ba} for a = 1s and b = 2s, 2p0, 2p1, 2p-1 all separately.

i got H&#039;_{ba} = 0 for everything except 2p0, so the coefficients will be 0, for 2p0 i got this for the coefficient:

(\frac{e*Eo}{i\hbar3\sqrt{2}a^4_{\mu}})(\int^{\infty}_0 r^4 e^{\frac{-3r}{2a_{\mu}}}dr)(\frac{1}{\frac{i3\mu e^4}{128\pi^2 \epsilon^2_o\hbar^3} - \frac{1}{\tau}})(e^{t(\frac{i3\mu e^4}{128\pi^2\epsilon^2_0\hbar^3}-\frac{1}{\tau}]}-1)
<br /> a_{\mu} =\frac{4\pi\epsilon_o\hbar^2}{\mu e^2}<br />
<br /> \mu = reduced mass


and then just take the absolute value squared to get the probability of being found in that state at time t. i was wondering if i did this right? also sorry about using e for the exponential and the charge, if it has variables in its power then its the exponential, otherwise its charge.

I have not checked all your algebra, but the fact that the only n=2 transition is to 2p is correct (given the dipole form of the perturbation).

This is more generally called the "dipole selection rule" and it is comes about because of the cos(theta) in the perturbation which is proportional to Y_{10}.

Thus transitions from the ground-state must go to states with \ell=1.
 
oh it was actually asking for the probabilities for the individual n=2 orbitals
i received probabilities of 0 for 2s and the 2p orbitals corresponding to the quantum numbers m = +/- 1. the only non zero probability transition i received was for 2p corresponding to m = 0.

the field is just a uniform electric field in the z direction that decays with time so I'm not sure if the selection rules are the same for the dipole transition.
 
adjklx said:
oh it was actually asking for the probabilities for the individual n=2 orbitals
i received probabilities of 0 for 2s and the 2p orbitals corresponding to the quantum numbers m = +/- 1. the only non zero probability transition i received was for 2p corresponding to m = 0.

the field is just a uniform electric field in the z direction that decays with time so I'm not sure if the selection rules are the same for the dipole transition.

...And I am telling you that what you have found is correct and the this *is* the dipole selection rule.

Your perturbation is basically
<br /> -e\bold{E}\cdot\bold{x}\;,<br />
which *is* the dipole operator -e\bold{x} dotted with the field vector.

You have chosen the field to be in the z-direction and thus, like I said, the spherical harmonic (1,0) is the perturbation. thus the final state must have \ell=1 and m=0 for transtions from the ground state. More generally (e.g., for transitions from states other than ground) dipole selection rules hold.
 

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