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Time rate of change for electric flux help

  1. May 15, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A 0.100A current is charging a capacitor that has square plates 5.00cm on each side. The plate separation is 4.00mm. Find (a) the time rate of change of electric flux between the plates and (b) the displacement current between the plates.

    2. Relevant equations
    I pretty much know how to get the displacement current using

    I= epsilon [flux/t] I just don't know how to get the electric flux


    3. The attempt at a solution

    b= uI= (4pi x 10^-7)(0.100)
    then flux = B x A
    but it asks for rate of change. the answer given is 11.3GV x m/s

    any help would be appreciated.
     
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  3. May 15, 2009 #2
    Electric flux for your case is E*A. You can find E since it is a parallel plate capacitor. And you know A = s^2.
     
  4. May 15, 2009 #3
    right, but im still having trouble getting E field. I have C=eA/d giving me 5.51 and im sure im doing something wrong to get E. sorry I feel dumb for asking but how do I get E from the given.
     
  5. May 15, 2009 #4
    The electric field is:

    [tex]E=\sigma / \epsilon[/tex]

    Where [tex]\sigma[/tex] is just the surface charge density. By the way, the current is I = dq/dt, so you can figure out the charge build up per unit time with that.
     
  6. May 15, 2009 #5
    oh, ok so this is what I have

    I=dq/dt => dt x I = dq => (1.00)(0.100)= 0.100 =q

    surface charge density= q/A => (0.100)/(25) = .00400

    E = SD/e = (.004)/(8.85 x 10^-12) = 451977401.1

    d(flux) = E dA = (451977401.1) x (50.0) = 2.260 x 10^10

    when deriving it though I don't get the answer. am I suppose to use distance of speration of plates instead of area for flux? thanks for putting up with my questions.
     
  7. May 15, 2009 #6

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    You can start with the definition of the capacity.
    When the capacity is charging, the increase in the voltage of the plates is given by
    dQ = C*dV
    Since the electric field between the parallel plates of the capacity is uniform, dE = dV/d where d is the distance between the plates.
    Substituting the expression for C = εοA/d, we have
    dQ = εοA/d*dV = εοA*dE
    So dQ/dt = εοA*dE/dt = εο*dφ/dt
    i.e. i = εο*dφ/dt.
     
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