Tips for Creating Physics Diagrams in Adobe Illustrator on Windows Machine

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The discussion revolves around creating physics diagrams using Adobe Illustrator on a Windows machine, particularly for a manuscript written in LaTeX. Participants explore various software options and techniques for producing high-quality illustrations, addressing both the capabilities of Illustrator and alternative tools.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses the need for specific illustrations for a physics course manuscript and questions how to effectively use Adobe Illustrator, having previously used Photoshop.
  • Some participants suggest using PowerPoint or Microsoft Visio as simpler alternatives for creating diagrams.
  • Questions are raised about the type of diagrams needed, including whether they are schematic, scaled drawings, or results of calculations, and whether they should be easily editable or reusable.
  • Another participant mentions that DVI viewers can include various picture formats in documents, suggesting flexibility in output options.
  • One participant describes the capabilities of Illustrator, including drawing basic shapes and using layers, and emphasizes the importance of the 'undo' feature.
  • Another participant shares their experience of successfully using PowerPoint for schematic diagrams in published papers, challenging the notion that Illustrator is necessary for high-quality output.
  • A suggestion is made to consider PiCTeX, a free package for drawing with TeX, which offers precision but requires a different approach than mouse drawing.
  • One participant proposes that a helix might be a key object to draw and suggests using computational tools like Maple or VPython for creating diagrams, noting the potential for raster or vector graphics output.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of using Adobe Illustrator versus other software like PowerPoint or Visio. There is no consensus on the best approach or tool for creating the required diagrams, and various suggestions and experiences are shared without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific requirements for the diagrams, including whether raster or vector graphics are needed, and the limitations of the tools discussed are not fully explored.

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I am working on a project for one of my physics courses and I require some specific illustrations to accompany the manuscript, which will be written in LaTeX. I believe Adobe Illustrator is capable of this, however having never used the program before, I'm not quite sure how to do this. The diagrams I need are very simple, but not simple enough for Microsoft Word to be able to handle. I have actually been able to make several of the diagrams in Adobe Photoshop, however this is highly ineffective and I am running out of time (plus, learning to do this will likely come in handy later). I was wondering if anyone had any experience doing something similar to this - not necessarily specifically for Adobe Illustrator, but on a Windows machine. Thanks
 
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Why can't you use Powerpoint? It is simple enough, and has all the basic drawing tools that one would need.

If you need a more sophisticated program, then try Microsoft Visio.

Zz.
 
What kind of diagram is it?
Is it something schematic? Or is it something like a scaled-drawing? Or the result of a calculation [like a directed-graph with nodes]?
Is it a diagram that should be easy to edit or reuse for later?
Should the output be raster or vector graphics?

Is the \picture environment is insufficient?
 
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I think that all DVI viewers have a command like:
\special{isoscale c:/pictures/thepicture.gif, 4.5cm 1.cm}

You can include almost any format of picture in a document. This is not a TeX or LaTeX command. It is ignored by the TeX compiler.
Read the "help" of your viewer.
 
Illustrator is capable of just about anything, from automatic drawing of basic shapes up to 3-D rendering and animation. The help menu can talk you through anything that you'll need for your project.
If the illustration is something that you could easily draw on paper, you might want to just use the pencil tool and drag it around with your mouse. If so, make sure that you have the fill set to 'none', or else it will colour inside the various curves and corners.
Don't worry about messing up part-way through, because you have almost unlimited levels of 'undo' in the edit menu. (Go into Illustrator>Preferences>General to set the minimum number.)
My approach is to use automatic shapes such as ellipses and rectangles and then add the control points to warp them into whatever shape I want. It can also simplify things for you to make each complete element in its own layer, so it won't be affected by things that you do to others.
 
ZapperZ said:
Why can't you use Powerpoint? It is simple enough, and has all the basic drawing tools that one would need.

If you need a more sophisticated program, then try Microsoft Visio.

Zz.

I need to be able to draw specific vectors, springs, dotted lines and whatnot. I'm sure I could do this in powerpoint or word, but it wouldn't reach the level of quality that this manuscript will require.

robphy said:
What kind of diagram is it?
Is it something schematic? Or is it something like a scaled-drawing? Or the result of a calculation [like a directed-graph with nodes]?
Is it a diagram that should be easy to edit or reuse for later?
Should the output be raster or vector graphics?

Is the \picture environment is insufficient?

I am essentially modeling coupled harmonic oscillations through hook's law. It is not that easy to reuse because I need to make diagrams of the system at several different times, i.e. the springs will be stretched a variety of different lengths.

I am not sure if it need to be raster or vector, as I am very unfamiliar with illustrator.
 
NutriGrainKiller said:
I need to be able to draw specific vectors, springs, dotted lines and whatnot. I'm sure I could do this in powerpoint or word, but it wouldn't reach the level of quality that this manuscript will require.

Er.. it doesn't?

I've published a couple of papers in PRL with schematic diagrams that I drew using powerpoint. They look perfectly alright to me.

Zz.
 
Have you considered PiCTeX? This a free package to draw with TeX. I used it for 20 years. But it is not a "mouse" drawing soft. You must describe all the drawing. In exchange it has a near absolute precision. You can draw any curve giving the coordinates of intermediate points. And it draw ellypses, cercles, arcs, vectors, etc. And you can put formulas and any TeX character where you want. But it is not, as TeX and LaTeX, a WYSIWYG.
 
My guess is that the key object to draw is a helix.

It shouldn't be too hard to draw by computation the apparatus in various stages by writing a computer program... for example, in Maple or in VPython http://vpython.org/ . Although VPython strength in 3D graphics, you can draw things in 2D... or view a 3D scene from an orthographic view.

To use the VPython approach, you can do a screen capture and obtain a raster graphics output.
To use the Maple approach, you can export to [vector graphics] postscript.
 

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