Learn Physics: Self-Study Guide for High School Student

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The discussion centers around a high school student's quest to self-study physics at a deep level, aiming for graduate-level knowledge before pursuing formal education. Participants explore various subjects, resources, and strategies for learning physics and the necessary mathematical background.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses a desire to learn physics deeply and seeks guidance on subjects, order of study, and resources.
  • Some participants recommend reading a 22-part guide by @ZapperZ on becoming a physicist, suggesting it may address the poster's questions.
  • One participant advises starting with an A Level Physics textbook, emphasizing the importance of working through problems at the end of chapters.
  • Another participant mentions specific textbooks, including Tsokos for IB Physics and Goldstein's Classical Mechanics, noting their depth and suitability for advanced study.
  • There are suggestions for Susskind's "The Theoretical Minimum" series as a resource for deeper understanding beyond introductory physics.
  • One participant recommends a general textbook like Roger Muncaster's, which covers multiple A Level courses, as a potentially better choice than course-specific texts.
  • The original poster outlines a preliminary learning plan, starting with Spivak's "Calculus" and Boas's "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences," followed by Muncaster's "A Level Physics."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational mathematics and the use of textbooks for self-study, but there are multiple recommendations for specific resources and approaches, indicating a lack of consensus on the best path forward.

Contextual Notes

Some recommendations depend on personal experiences and may vary in effectiveness based on individual learning styles. The discussion does not resolve which textbooks or methods are definitively superior.

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Hello everyone.
I'm assuming many similar threads to this one have been posted previously but I wanted to make one that is fitting to my specific situation, hopefully it's not to much trouble.

So I want to seriously start teaching myself physics at a deep level, and this post is basically my first step in trying to do that. I'm a high-school student at the moment with aspirations to become a theoretical physicist but I already want to start diving into the material, with the plan to have graduate level knowledge before enlisting (Then of course re-learn them all again with a proper course and lecturer, this might make the experience a bit more tedious but hey you win some you lose some).

As I said I want to learn all of physics contained in undergraduate and graduate material to a deep enough degree. Obviously I don't except to become an expert in all these fields but I want to have a deep enough knowledge to be able understand the reasoning behind them and to draw conclusions on my own. I am aware that this is a task of several years so I am ready for a deep long term plan on how to achieve this objective.

As for my current knowledge, I have a deep enough understanding of high-school level mathematics including basic calculus. Although I do also know high-school level physics (Newtonian mechanics, Basic electrostatics and electrodynamics, Waves, etc.) I think it is best to assume I know nothing about physics and start from scratch.

With all that said I am here asking a few questions:
Which subjects do I need to learn (including mathematical background)?
In what order should I learn them?
Which sources can I use to learn each subject?
And just in general if you have any helpful tips.

I am aware of sites such as OCW and Khan academy but they are more supplemental than main resources, also both have a tendency to have incomplete subjects since they are work-in-progresses. so I am hoping to get an encompassing book (with problems, can't learn physics without 'em) for each subject and each mathematical field that I need to learn.

Thanks so much to everyone who takes the time to read this and answer, really looking forward to it.
 
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@Adgorn It looks as though you are approaching this in the right frame of mind - that gives you a good chance!
I would say that the first thing you should do is to buy an A Level Physics textbook and work through it. These books tend to be bulky but that just reflects the size of the subject. As to which book you should use, I have looked through quite a few of them and also reviews, before selecting suitable texts for my A level students (a few years ago). Pick one on the basis of the reviews and that will avoid you going too far wrong.
Modern A level syllabi have content about fairly advanced stuff but (as you'd expect) it won't get you to graduate knowledge. There's a lot of stuff about fundamental particles that's little more than 'top trumps' but it gives you something to take you further if you want.
If you can possibly bring yourself to, you should do some of the questions at the end of chapters. The Maths is very relevant.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Rather than answer your question you should read this 22 part sequence by @ZapperZ on how to become a physicist. It should answer all your questions.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/so-you-want-to-be-a-physicist-22-part-guide.240792/

Also physics is very much a subject of math and so this site mathispower4u.com has many videos on th math you’ll need for first year college. Knowing it will make learning physics a lot easier.

Thanks for the response! The sequence you sent does contain some learning resources (It mentions "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Science" which I will look into) but it mostly deals with how to go through actual university which is less relevant for me at the moment (although I will definitely take its advise into account at a later stage). I'll also look into the site you linked as I know the maths is as important as the physics if one wishes to learn properly.

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@Adgorn It looks as though you are approaching this in the right frame of mind - that gives you a good chance!
I would say that the first thing you should do is to buy an A Level Physics textbook and work through it. These books tend to be bulky but that just reflects the size of the subject. As to which book you should use, I have looked through quite a few of them and also reviews, before selecting suitable texts for my A level students (a few years ago). Pick one on the basis of the reviews and that will avoid you going too far wrong.
Modern A level syllabi have content about fairly advanced stuff but (as you'd expect) it won't get you to graduate knowledge. There's a lot of stuff about fundamental particles that's little more than 'top trumps' but it gives you something to take you further if you want.
If you can possibly bring yourself to, you should do some of the questions at the end of chapters. The Maths is very relevant.

Advice duly taken. I'll look into options for A level physics textbooks and see if I can find something good. Since you have experience with teaching and these books do you have any personal recommendations? All input is welcome after all (especially since I hardly know where to start).
 
One book I’ve seen is the Tsokos book for IB Physics available on Amazon.

From my college days, I learned that many NYC students had studied Goldstein Classical Mechanics in high school privately. Old stein is the gold standard for classical physics. The book level is a big step above what is taught in the first college physics survey courses that all freshmen take.

There’s also the Susskinds the Theoretical Minimum books and online courses that are designed for those of us who’ve been away from physics for some time but who still want to learn or relearn it at a deeper level beyond freshman physics close to Goldstein in depth.

So far Susskinds has three books Classical Mechanics, Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity. All great books to read.
 
Adgorn said:
do you have any personal recommendations?
There are bound to be new editions of the books I compared in the UK ten years ago. But I did look at probably half a dozen that basically contained the A level courses of several different examination boards. I would recommend choosing a book that isn't aimed at one particular course but a general textbook like Roger Muncaster's book would probably be better. There are good reviews on Amazon but it's a bit expensive.
 
Right, so after looking through some recommended books I have the start of my learning plan. I'll start with Spivak's "Calculus" and continue with Boas's "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences", I think that should give me the mathematical basis I need. After those two I'll go through Muncaster's "A Level Physics".
That should keep me busy for a good while and provide a solid start.
 

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