Toilet Tissue Held by Air Velocity or Pressure?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Futsal1st
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Pressure Velocity
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the mechanics of how a piece of toilet tissue is held against a ceiling grille, specifically examining the roles of air velocity and differential pressure. It concludes that while air velocity contributes to the phenomenon, the primary force preventing the tissue from falling is the pressure difference created by airflow, as described by the Bernoulli equation. The example of a truck cover bulging due to airflow further illustrates this principle, emphasizing the importance of understanding fluid dynamics in practical applications.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Bernoulli's principle and its applications
  • Basic knowledge of fluid dynamics and airflow mechanics
  • Familiarity with concepts of pressure differentials
  • Experience with practical examples of airflow effects in engineering
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Bernoulli equation and its implications in fluid dynamics
  • Research airflow dynamics in HVAC systems
  • Examine practical applications of pressure differentials in engineering
  • Explore case studies on airflow effects in transportation, such as truck aerodynamics
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, physicists, and anyone interested in fluid dynamics, particularly those involved in HVAC design and transportation engineering.

Futsal1st
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
a piece of toilet tissue is held against a ceiling grille. Is it held there by air velocity or differential pressure.

If the grille exhausting 50l/s through a 100x100mm egg crate opening the tissue may be held up.

If however the same air flow gives through a 500x500 mm grille, it will fall down.

For me the difference is velocity. So is the tissue held there by velocity?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
No. The Earth is pulling it down by gravitational force. To prevent falling, some other force is needed to offset that. So it is held in position by a force, which of course depends on this air flow. And you are close with your hypothesis: the higher over-all velocity in the first case leads to higher velocity differences and that causes a pressure difference that keeps the tissue in place. The place to look for a description is in the Bernoulli equation.

A nice example of the same phenomenon is the bulging of a truck cover sail at the front end (behind the driver cabin): the air is pushed aside by the truck and has to move faster to get out of the way. That higher speed creates a lower pressure which 'pulls out' the cover in a bulge.
 

Similar threads

Replies
0
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
16K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
7K