Topological Conjugation between two dynamical systems

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The discussion revolves around finding a topological conjugation between two mappings, g(x) and T(x), both of which are tent maps. The original poster presents the functions g(x) = 1 - 2|x| and T(x) defined piecewise, and seeks a homeomorphism h that satisfies the condition h ° T = g ° h.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various forms of the function h, including trigonometric and affine transformations, while questioning the implications of absolute values in the context of the mappings. There is discussion about the nature of fixed points and the requirements for a valid homeomorphism.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches and suggestions, such as using the affine transformation h(x) = 2x - 1. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct form of h, and participants continue to explore different avenues and clarify misunderstandings regarding the properties of the functions involved.

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Participants note the challenges posed by the absolute value in g(x) and the piecewise nature of T(x), which complicates the search for a suitable conjugation. There is also mention of the need for the homeomorphism to map fixed points correctly.

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Homework Statement



Find a topological conjugation between g(x) and T(x) where g and T are mappings (both tent maps [graphically speaking])

Homework Equations

g:[-1, 1] → [-1,1]
g(x) = 1-2|x|

T:[0,1] → [0, 1]
T(x) = 2x when x ≤ 1/2 and 2(1-x) when x ≥ 1/2

h ° T = g ° h (homeomorphism)

The Attempt at a Solution



h:[0, 1] → [-1, 1]
h(x) = cos(∏x)

when T(x) = 2x and x ≤ 1/2:

cos(∏*(2x)) = sin^2(∏x) - cos^(∏x) = 1 - 2cos^2(∏x) = 1 - 2|cos^2(∏x) = -cos(2∏x)

when T(x) = 2(1-x) and x ≥ 1/2

cos(2∏(1-x) = cos(2∏-2x∏) = -cos^2(∏x)+sin^2(∏x) = 1-2|cos^2(∏x) + sin^2(∏x) = 1-2|cos(2∏x)|

The above attempt I know is incorrect because after I introduce the absolute value brackets I do not get the desired result.

This is when I get stuck. I have tried many different variations of trig functions to act as the conjugator between g and T(x), however I have had no luck (after many hours.) I know for that it would be easy to find a homeomorphism if it wasnt for the |x| part of the 1-2|x| dynamical system (tent map.) I do not think that I am supposed to find a conjugation between two tent maps (explicit i,.e. conjugating two piecewise functions) because it seems that would be highly redundant. If anyone could provide some assistance that would be great.
 
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selig5560 said:

Homework Statement



Find a topological conjugation between g(x) and T(x) where g and T are mappings (both tent maps [graphically speaking])

Homework Equations

g:[-1, 1] → [-1,1]
g(x) = 1-2|x|

T:[0,1] → [0, 1]
T(x) = 2x when x ≤ 1/2 and 2(1-x) when x ≥ 1/2

h ° T = g ° h (homeomorphism)

The Attempt at a Solution



h:[0, 1] → [-1, 1]
h(x) = cos(∏x)

You want h(0) = -1 (fixed points must map to fixed points) and h(1) = 1.

when T(x) = 2x and x ≤ 1/2:

cos(∏*(2x)) = sin^2(∏x) - cos^(∏x) = 1 - 2cos^2(∏x) = 1 - 2|cos^2(∏x) = -cos(2∏x)

when T(x) = 2(1-x) and x ≥ 1/2

cos(2∏(1-x) = cos(2∏-2x∏) = -cos^2(∏x)+sin^2(∏x) = 1-2|cos^2(∏x) + sin^2(∏x) = 1-2|cos(2∏x)|

The above attempt I know is incorrect because after I introduce the absolute value brackets I do not get the desired result.

Cosine is even: \cos(2\pi(1 - x)) = \cos (-2\pi x) = \cos (2\pi x).

EDIT: did you consider the straightforward h : [0,1] \to [-1,1]: x \mapsto 2x - 1?
 
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Thanks for the reply. Good point on the cosine being even - Forgot about that. I tried your "straightforward" approach, however no luok so far. If I'm not mistaken the homeomoprhism has to be algebraic at this point. I don't see a way of simplifying trig functions with those | | being part of the DDS.
 
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I used the affine transform you provdd ie. 2x-1 and it did not yield a conjugation. my work:

g(h(x)) = 1-2|2x-1|
h(T(x)) =

x <= 1/2: 2(2x) - 1 = 4x - 1 \neq -4x+3 = 1-2(2x-1) = g(h(x))

x >= 1/2: 2(2-2x) - 1 = 4 - 4x - 1 = -4x + 3 = 1-2(2x-1) = 1-4x + 3 = -4x + 3 = g(h(x))

this is of course using h(x) = 2x-1

where h(0) = -1 and h(1) = 1
 
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selig5560 said:
I used the affine transform you provdd ie. 2x-1 and it did not yield a conjugation. my work:

g(h(x)) = 1-2|2x-1|
h(T(x)) =

x <= 1/2: 2(2x) - 1 = 4x - 1 \neq -4x+3 = 1-2(2x-1) = g(h(x))

You should have g(h(x)) = 1 + 2h(x) when x \leq \frac 12, because h(x) \leq 0 and |h(x)| = -h(x) when x \leq \frac12.
 
THanks for the reply I will try it out.

EDIT: It works now. However, out of self-interest I would like to understand a bit more abour your statement. Isnt |h(x)| = -h(x) when x < 0? In this case x <= 1/2, so how would it be true that |h(x)| = -h(x) (when the condition is when its x < 0?
Selig
 
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