1. Not finding help here? Sign up for a free 30min tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Topology - Gluing two handlebodies by the identity

  1. Sep 15, 2008 #1
    Hello all,

    I have a question I'm having a hard time with in an introductory Algebraic Topology course:
    Take two handlebodies of equal genus g in S^3 and identify their boundaries by the identity mapping. What is the fundamental group of the resulting space M?

    Now, I know you can glue two handlebodies of equal genus to create S^3 itself - but that's gluing is not done by the identity mapping.
    Intuitively, it would seem I would get the free group with g generators - it's as if I'm identifying the generators of the fundamental groups of both handlebodies. Thing is, when I'm trying to formalize that notion using the Seifert-Van-Kampen theorem - it doesn't turn out right. If I'm trying to use SVK then after identifying the boundaries, the two handlebodies cover the space, and their intersection is a connected sum of tori. The induced homomorphism from their intersection to each of the handlebodies maps all elements of the intersections fundamental group to e, as they are all equivalent to a point once you can move the loops through the solid handlebody. Now, since the fundamental group of each of the handlebodies is the free group with g generators, it follows from SVK that the fundamental group of M would be the free group with 2g generators (just the free product of both of their fundamental groups, seeing as the intersection didn't create any relations), which, to me, seems twice as much as is correct :)

    Any ideas where I'm going wrong?
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Sep 15, 2008 #2

    HallsofIvy

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor

    What is meant here by the identity mapping? I would think that the identity mapping would map a point to itself but that would only be a "gluing" if the two handelbodies shared a common boundary.
     
  4. Sep 15, 2008 #3
    The meaning of identity here can be seen this way - suppose we start with one handlebody, and duplicate it to create the second one. Now the identity means mapping each point in the original to the point it was duplicated to in the second.
     
  5. Sep 16, 2008 #4
    OK, I think I've worked out my problem. Is it considered acceptable here to post my final solution to my question?
     
  6. Sep 16, 2008 #5

    HallsofIvy

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor

    Sure, go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing it.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?



Similar Discussions: Topology - Gluing two handlebodies by the identity
Loading...