Torque and Net Force Calculations

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a bar with two weights and spring scales, requiring calculations of net forces and torque. The system is at equilibrium, leading to the conclusion that both net forces and net torque must equal zero. The calculations for vertical forces (ΣFy) resulted in a net force of 3N, indicating a discrepancy that suggests a percentage error due to miscalculations. Torque at point A was computed as 3.653Nm, which contradicts the expected behavior of the system, implying a potential misunderstanding of the forces involved. The conversation emphasizes the need to clarify the calculations and the nature of the forces and torques acting on the system.
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Homework Statement


The bar, of length AB=2m, with a mass of 6.00 kg.

There are two weights, let's call them m1 and m2, hanging off the bar. m1 is 4.4kg, at 0.66m from point A. m2 is 2.0 kg, at 1.84m.

The bar is suspended by two spring scales defined as F1 and F2 (assuming negligible mass). The first spring scale, F1, is 68.2N from a distance of 0.45m from A. The second spring scale is 56.3N from a distance of 1.71m.

This system is at equilibrium, therefore, net forces and net torque must be zero. I say must be, because the

Homework Equations


ΣFx = ΣFy = 0 T=Fxd = mass x acceleration x d

3. Questions posed;

a) calculate ΣFx
b) calculate ΣFy
c) calculate Torque at A
d) calculate the percentage error for ΣFy and Torque at A (a very strange question for what is essentially a theoretical math question)

4. The attempt at a solution

Given that there is no reference to horizontal forces in the above description (no wires attached to walls, etc.), we deemed ΣFx as zero.

ΣFy, however, was 0 = 68.2N + 56.3N - 43.1N - 58.8N - 19.6N = 3N...which is a percentage error, but that's a divide by zero calculation.

Torque at A was calculated = 68.2*0.45 + 56.3*1.71 - 43.1*0.66 - 58.8*1.00 - 19.6*1.84 = 3.653Nm...which makes very little sense given that the whole system should be spinning to the left.

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My guess is that the sums of forces and torques asked for is just those due to the rod and masses. So the percentage error being sought is not the error in the net force, it is the error in the total force measured by the spring scales. Likewise torque.
 

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