Torque-Sign hanging from a cable

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In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of determining the maximum mass of a sign that can be supported by a cable without breaking. The sign is 120cm wide and hangs from a 5.4 kg, 200cm-long pole, with the end of the pole supported by a cable. The maximum tension in the cable without breaking is 330N, and the equation T = r*F*sin(phi) = F * d (d = moment arm length) is used to set the torque provided by the tension in the cable equal to the torque provided by the weight of the sign. However, this solution does not take into account the weight of the pole and may not be correct. Further clarification and assistance is needed to solve the
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Torque--Sign hanging from a cable

Homework Statement



A 120cm-wide sign hangs from a 5.4 kg, 200cm-long pole. A cable of negligible mass supports the end of the rod as shown in the figure

What is the maximum mass of the sign if the maximum tension in the cable without breaking is 330N?


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Homework Equations


T = r*F*sin(phi) = F * d (d = moment arm length)


The Attempt at a Solution



I set the Torque provided by the tension in the cable equal to the torque provided by the weight of the sign because the cable will break when the mass is just above the mass at this point.

(330N)(2m)(sin 51) = (1.2m)(9.81)(max_mass)

with this I get the max_mass to = 43.6kg, a wrong answer. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.
 
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What happened to the weight of the pole? What point are you summing torques about?
 
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I would like to start by clarifying that torque is the measure of the force that can cause an object to rotate about an axis. In the context of this problem, the torque provided by the tension in the cable is balancing the torque provided by the weight of the sign. This means that the sign is in static equilibrium, meaning it is not moving or rotating.

To solve this problem, we can use the equation T = rFsin(θ), where T is the torque, r is the moment arm length, F is the force, and θ is the angle between the force and the moment arm. In this case, the moment arm length is the length of the pole (2m) and the angle between the force of tension and the moment arm is 51 degrees.

So, the equation becomes T = (2m)(330N)sin(51) = 1078.8 Nm. This is the maximum torque that the cable can withstand without breaking.

To find the maximum mass of the sign, we can use the equation T = rmg, where m is the mass, g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.81 m/s^2), and r is the moment arm length (1.2m). So, the maximum mass can be calculated as m = T/(rg) = 1078.8 Nm/(1.2m)(9.81 m/s^2) = 90.8 kg.

Therefore, the maximum mass of the sign that the cable can support without breaking is 90.8 kg.
 

1. What is torque?

Torque is a measure of the force that causes an object to rotate about an axis. It is calculated by multiplying the force applied to an object by the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied.

2. How does torque apply to a hanging cable?

In the case of a hanging cable, torque refers to the force that is exerted on the cable due to its own weight and any additional weight or force acting on it. This torque causes the cable to rotate about a fixed point, typically the point where it is attached to a structure or anchor.

3. What is the significance of the torque-sign on the cable?

The torque-sign on a hanging cable indicates the direction of the torque acting on the cable. This is important for understanding how the cable will behave and how much weight it can support without breaking or deforming.

4. How does the angle of the cable affect the torque?

The angle of the cable can significantly affect the torque acting on it. As the angle increases, the torque also increases, making the cable more susceptible to breaking or deforming. This is why it is important to properly support and angle hanging cables to distribute the torque evenly.

5. How can torque be calculated for a hanging cable?

To calculate the torque acting on a hanging cable, you will need to know the weight of the cable, any additional weight or force acting on it, and the distance from the point of attachment to the point where the force is applied. You can then use the formula torque = force x distance to calculate the torque in units of Newton-meters (N*m).

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