Total displacement of sail boat

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total displacement and average velocity of a sailboat's journey, which involves vector components and trigonometric considerations. The problem includes angles related to the boat's movement against the wind and requires understanding of displacement in a two-dimensional plane.

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  • Participants explore different methods for calculating displacement, including the use of trigonometric functions and the law of cosines. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between average velocity and displacement, as well as discussions about the assumptions made regarding angles and vector addition.

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A sailboat tacking against the wind moves as follows:
5.8 km at 45 degrees east of north, and then
4.5 km at 50 degrees west of north.
The entire motion takes 1 h 15 min
What is the total displacement?
What is the average velocity of this section of the trip?
What is the speed, if it is assumed to be constant?

Total Displacement
/\x = 5.8*sin(45) + 4.5*sin(-50)= 6.116 km
/\y = 5.8*cos(45) + 4.5*cos(-50)= 7.389 km
/\d = sqrt(/\x^2 + /\y^2) = 9.592 km = 9592 m

Average Velocity
v= r/t

How do I figure out the rest from this information? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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The speed (assuming it is constant through the trip) is just the total distance traveled divided by the time it took to travel that distance.

Average velocity is displacement divided by the time.
 
big man said:
The speed (assuming it is constant through the trip) is just the total distance traveled divided by the time it took to travel that distance.

Average velocity is displacement divided by the time.

Average velocity=displacement/time
Average velocity=9.592 km/1.25 h=7.623 km/h
 
yeah that's right formula.

However, looking at your calculation for displacement I don't think it's right. I don't think you're going to have a right angle triangle with those angles. I think that you will have to use the law of cosines to calculate displacement.
 
hmmm ... I am new to vectors (and Physics as a whole) ... but i did manage to do some calculations using the cosine law and it seems that big man is correct . The displacement should be around 10.3 Kms . As far as the average velocity is concerned ... well its about 2.3 ms^-1 . It says that the speed is assumed to be constant , so ... use this equation s = ut where s = total distance , t = total time and u = constant speed ...

BTW which book are u going through ??
 
sorry i think i got it wrong ... it said west of north damn ! anyways i think u get the picture right ?
 
Welcome junior_j!

I actually calculated the displacement to be roughly 7 km.

The angle opposite the displacement line is 85 degrees. Is that what you got?

EDIT: haha that was a quick post. Disregard this post ;)
 
now that u mentioned it I am doing it again :)

... yes those are what i got ... the angle opposite to the resultant vector is 85 degrees and the resultant displacement is 7km
 
Alright here's another shot...

Total Displacement
180-angle A-angle B=angle C
180-45-50=85
v3^2=v1^2+v2^2-2(v1)(v2)cos(C)
v3^2=5.8^2+4.5^2-(52.2)cos(85)
v3^2=49.341
v3=7.024 km

Average velocity=displacement/time
Average velocity=7.024 km/1.25 h=5.619 km/h

How would I calculate the speed?
Constant Acceleration
 
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speed = distance/time

So 4.5 + 5.8 = 10.3 km. That is your total distance covered in the given time interval.

Edit: Forgot to say that your above working is correct as well for the average velocity.
 
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speed=distance/time
speed=4.5 km + 5.8 km/1.25 h= 8.24 km/h
 
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Yup that's it!
 

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