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The discussion centers on calculating the force exerted by the first boxcar on the second boxcar in a train system. The train consists of a 4000 kg locomotive, a 12,000 kg first boxcar, and a 16,000 kg second boxcar, with an acceleration of 0.4 m/s². The correct force exerted by the first boxcar on the last boxcar is determined to be 6,000 Newtons, achieved by applying Newton's second law (F=ma) specifically to the last boxcar. The initial miscalculation arose from incorrectly summing the masses of both boxcars instead of analyzing the forces acting on the last boxcar alone.

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Homework Statement


A train consists of a 4000 kg locomotive pulling two loaded boxcars, the first with a mass of 12,000 kg and the second with a mass of 16,000 kg. Assume that the boxcar wheels roll without friction and ignore aerodynamics. The acceleration of the train is 0.4 m/s2.

With what force strength, in Newtons, does the first boxcar pull on the last boxcar?


Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought the mass should be the total of the last two boxcars which would be 12000 plus 16,000 =28,000 so I tried 28,000*0.4m/s^2 which came out to 11,200 which is obviously wrong the answer to the question should be 6E3, what am I doing wrong?
 
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If the train is accelerating then what force is accelerating just the last car?
 
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Jordash said:

Homework Statement


A train consists of a 4000 kg locomotive pulling two loaded boxcars, the first with a mass of 12,000 kg and the second with a mass of 16,000 kg. Assume that the boxcar wheels roll without friction and ignore aerodynamics. The acceleration of the train is 0.4 m/s2.

With what force strength, in Newtons, does the first boxcar pull on the last boxcar?


Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought the mass should be the total of the last two boxcars which would be 12000 plus 16,000 =28,000 so I tried 28,000*0.4m/s^2 which came out to 11,200 which is obviously wrong the answer to the question should be 6E3, what am I doing wrong?
You should be using Free Body Diagrams (FBD). What you have calculated is the the pulling force of the engine on the first boxcar, not the pulling force of the first boxcar on the last boxcar. The easiest way to do this problem is to look at the last boxcar only in a FBD of that last boxcar. Identify the force acting on it, and solve for its value using Newton 2.
 

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