Transform a 2x2 matrix into an anti-symmetric matrix

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of a 2x2 Hermitian matrix into a skew-symmetric matrix through an orthogonal transformation. Participants explore the conditions under which such a transformation is possible, particularly focusing on the properties of the matrices involved and the implications of their eigenvectors.

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  • One participant presents a Hermitian matrix and inquires about the possibility of transforming it into a skew-symmetric form using an orthogonal matrix with a determinant of 1.
  • Another participant suggests that the transformation is possible if the minimal polynomials of the Hermitian and skew-symmetric matrices match, specifically if a certain condition on the coefficients is satisfied.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the orthogonality of the transformation matrix, particularly questioning whether the eigenvectors of the Hermitian matrix are orthogonal.
  • A participant asserts that since the matrix is Hermitian, the eigenvalues are real, leading to a specific equation involving the imaginary part of the coefficients.
  • Subsequent posts correct a mathematical expression regarding the signs of terms in the equation, indicating a potential typo and confirming the correction.

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Participants express differing views on the orthogonality of the transformation matrix and the implications of the eigenvectors' properties. There is no consensus on whether the transformation can be achieved under the given conditions.

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Limitations include the dependence on the specific properties of the eigenvectors and the conditions under which the transformation is considered valid. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps regarding the eigenvalues and their implications.

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Hi,
I have a 2x2 hermitian matrix like:
$$
A = \begin{bmatrix}
a && b \\
-b && -a
\end{bmatrix}
$$
(b is imaginary to ensure that it is hermitian). I would like to find an orthogonal transformation M that makes A skew-symmetric:
$$
\hat A = \begin{bmatrix}
0 && c \\
-c && 0
\end{bmatrix}
$$
Is it possible, or I need to constrain my problem more? I need M to be orthogonal and with det(M) = 1. I was thinking maybe there are some tricks involving Pauli matrices.Ric
 
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This is possible since the minimal polynomials of A and \hat A are m_A(\lambda) = \lambda^2 + b^2 - a^2 and m_{\hat A}(\lambda) = \lambda^2 + c^2, so if c^2 = b^2 - a^2 they will have the same minimal polynomial and the same Jordan normal form (which in this case is diagonal).

However, I don't think M will be orthogonal unless the eigenvectors of A are orthogonal, which does not appear to be the case in general: the eigenvectors are (b, a \mp \lambda) and their inner product is |a|^2 + |b|^2 + 2\operatorname{Im}(a\bar{\lambda}) - |\lambda|^2 where \lambda^2 = a^2 - b^2.
 
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Question: since A is hermitian ##\lambda## are reals, so if ##a## is real, then ##\text{Im}(a\lambda) = 0##
and
$$
|a|^2 - |b|^2 - (a^2 - b^2) = |b|^2 + b^2 = 0
$$
because ##b## is purely imaginary. Right?
 
No, you have ##|b|^2## with the wrong sign on the left.
 
Maarten Havinga said:
No, you have ##|b|^2## with the wrong sign on the left.
Sorry it was a typo. It should read ##+|b|^2## and it should be correct.
 
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It is correct with that addition
 
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