Transformer Core: Questions About Lamination & Soldering

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of transformer cores, specifically focusing on the use of lamination to reduce eddy currents and the implications of welding at the corners of the core. Participants explore the effects of these practices on core performance, including potential impacts on eddy current losses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the purpose of welding in the corners of transformer cores, questioning whether it compromises the benefits of lamination.
  • One participant clarifies that the welding is intended to prevent the laminations from vibrating or loosening.
  • Another participant expresses concern that welding might increase eddy currents and core losses.
  • Some participants propose that electrically connecting all laminations may not necessarily lead to increased eddy current loss, depending on how the connections are made.
  • A later reply suggests that if the weld is shallow and located on the outside, it may not significantly affect the performance of the core.
  • There is a discussion about the characteristics of E & I laminations and how the welding might influence voltage and current within the laminations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of welding for eddy current losses, with no consensus reached on whether it is beneficial or detrimental to core performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific conditions such as the frequency of operation and the type of laminations, which may affect the outcomes discussed. However, these conditions remain unresolved in terms of their overall impact on eddy current losses.

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hello
i have a question about the transformer core.when we make it's core,we usually make it laminated to reduce eddy currents.but i saw that there is a soldeing in the corner of the transformer core.why we do this ?
 
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I have never seen such solder in the corner of the transformer core. Do you have pictures?
 
jorjijon said:
hello
i have a question about the transformer core.when we make it's core,we usually make it laminated to reduce eddy currents.but i saw that there is a soldeing in the corner of the transformer core.why we do this ?

It's a weld, not soldering. It's there to keep the laminations from vibrating or otherwise working loose.
 
Antiphon said:
It's a weld, not soldering. It's there to keep the laminations from vibrating or otherwise working loose.
Thank you very much.but still i have a question.by doing this way,don't we ruin our works to decrease eddy currents in the core??
 
All 4 corner edges are welded?
 
NascentOxygen said:
All 4 corner edges are welded?

yes.but doesn't it increase eddy currents(core losses) in the transformer?
 
Would it surprise you if I said that you can electrically connect all of the laminations together and it won't (necessarily) increase eddy current loss?

The key feature of the laminations is that hey should allow no transverse conductive loop to encloses a significant amount of the flux. It is possible to apply a shallow weld in the corners without violating this feature.
 
Assuming that the core is E & I laminations and the weld is only on the outside.
The weld acts like a half turn of a conductor. The half turn puts a voltage across the inside of the laminations. If the volltage is low (60 hertz and a small transformer) then the current through the inside laminations is low and the loss is low.
 

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