Transmission line analysis help

In summary, When analyzing a circuit with a probe connected to a high speed bus or a matched RF line, it is important to take into account the reflections caused by the mismatch between the probe and the circuit. A short trace or a matched source may improve the standing wave ratio slightly, but there will still be some reflection. The length of the probe cable does not affect the reflection, but the importance of the reflection depends on the distance compared to the signal wavelength.
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I am at a loss on how to apply transmission line theory when a probe is connected to a high speed bus or for a matched RF line.
For example, a signal going from a PCI clock to a bufffer which has a very short trace(so no termination is required). Now, if I connect a logic analyzer probe to this trace, how do I analyze this circuit.
The probe is in parallel with the buffer. Can I ignore the buffer (since the buffer input impedance is high) and just think of the circuit as a clock source connected to the logic analyzer?
This will reduce to a clock source with some internal impedance(maybe 10-20 ohms) connected to 20K probe tip and terminated by 1M resistor. So, the clock source will see an open circuit? Wouldn't there be any reflections because of the mismatch. (Fig 1)

In case of a 50 ohm matched source, tx line and load. How do I analyze, when a probe is connected at the source or load? (fig 2)
 

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If you have a very short line (ie short compared with the wavelength of the signal), then you can live with the reflection due to a mismatch because it will be very nearly in phase with the incoming wave.

So, if you put a 20 K probe in parallel with the input impedance of a buffer, the SWR will actually get slightly better if the line has an impedance of about 50 ohms or so. However, it still won't be a match and there will be some reflection.

This reflection occurs at the tip of the probe, so the length of the probe cable won't matter. Again, you will get a reflection and how important it is depends on the distances compared with a wavelength at the signal frequency.

If the line is matched and you put 20 K across it, you will upset the match very slightly. Instead of a 50 ohm load, you would then have a load of 50 ohms in parallel with 20 K, or 49.87 ohms. So, it isn't going to make any difference.
 

What is transmission line analysis?

Transmission line analysis is a method used to analyze the behavior and performance of electrical transmission lines. It involves studying the characteristics of the line, such as impedance, voltage, and current, in order to ensure efficient and reliable transmission of electrical energy.

Why is transmission line analysis important?

Transmission line analysis is important because it helps in the design, operation, and maintenance of electrical transmission systems. It allows engineers to identify potential issues and make necessary adjustments to ensure the safe and efficient transfer of electricity.

What are the key components of transmission line analysis?

The key components of transmission line analysis include understanding the properties of the line, such as length, impedance, and capacitance, as well as the operating conditions, such as voltage, current, and frequency. It also involves using mathematical models and simulation tools to analyze the behavior of the line.

What are some common techniques used in transmission line analysis?

Some common techniques used in transmission line analysis include the use of circuit theory, electromagnetic theory, and numerical methods such as finite difference time domain (FDTD), method of moments (MoM), and finite element method (FEM). These techniques help in solving complex transmission line problems and predicting their performance.

What are some real-world applications of transmission line analysis?

Transmission line analysis has a wide range of real-world applications, including designing and optimizing power transmission systems, analyzing the impact of faults and disturbances on the line, and predicting the behavior of transmission lines in different operating conditions. It is also used in the development of new transmission technologies, such as high voltage direct current (HVDC) transmission and renewable energy integration.

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