Transpose: a linear transformation?

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The discussion centers on whether transposing a matrix qualifies as a linear transformation. It highlights that while transposing exhibits linearity, no 2x2 matrix can achieve this transformation through standard multiplication. Instead, a 4x4 matrix can represent the transpose operation within the vector space of 2x2 matrices. The conversation clarifies that linear transformations apply to both vectors and matrices, as matrices can be viewed as vectors in a higher-dimensional space. Ultimately, the existence of a matrix that can represent the transpose operation is affirmed, resolving the initial confusion.
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Alternate title: Is the textbook contradicting itself?

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So...it would appear that transposing has the property of linearity, but no matrix can achieve it...is transposing a linear transformation? The text said every linear transformation would be accomplished by a matrix.

Or, strictly speaking, do linear transformations only apply to vectors?
 
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This looks to me as mostly a confusion of words. First, "do linear transformations only apply to vectors?". The set of all n by m matrices with the usual addition and scalar multiplication of matrices is a vector space and, in the sense of linear algebra, there is no difference between a "matrix" and a "vector".
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Second, the second statement, that "Show no matrix will do it" (map a matrix to its transpose) is incorrect- there is such a matrix but applying it to a vector space of matrices is not the usual matrix multiplication.

To write a linear transformation, from one vector space to another, as a matrix we
1: choose an ordered basis for the both vector spaces.
2: Apply that linear transformation to each basis vector of the first space.
3: Write the result as a linear combination of the basis vectors for the second space.
4: Take the coefficients of each such linear combination as a column for the matrix.

If the two vector spaces are, say, the vector space of two by two matrices, then each such matrix is of the form \begin{bmatrix}a & b \\ c & d \end{bmatrix} and "standard" ordered basis for the vector space is
\{\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}\}

That vectors space is four dimensional so the space of linear transformations from it to itself is 4x4= 16 dimensional and a matrix representing any such linear transformation is a 4 by 4 matrix. There is no 2 by 2 matrix such that, multiplied by a 2 by 2 matrix gives its transpose but there is a four by four matrix that, multiplied by the coefficient matrix as given by the ordered basis above, gives the coefficient matrix of its transpose, which is what Linear Algebra says must exist.

In the vector space of two by two matrices, the matrix representing the "transpose" linear transformation is
\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}
 
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This looks to me as mostly a confusion of words. First, "do linear transformations only apply to vectors?". The set of all n by m matrices with the usual addition and scalar multiplication of matrices is a vector space and, in the sense of linear algebra, there is no difference between a "matrix" and a "vector".
sS
Second, the second statement, that "Show no matrix will do it" (map a matrix to its transpose) is incorrect- there is such a matrix but applying it to a vector space of matrices is not the usual matrix multiplication.

To write a linear transformation, from one vector space to another, as a matrix we
1: choose an ordered basis for the both vector spaces.
2: Apply that linear transformation to each basis vector of the first space.
3: Write the result as a linear combination of the basis vectors for the second space.
4: Take the coefficients of each such linear combination as a column for the matrix.

If the two vector spaces are, say, the vector space of two by two matrices, then each such matrix is of the form \begin{bmatrix}a & b \\ c & d \end{bmatrix} and "standard" ordered basis for the vector space is
\{\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}, \begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}\}

That vectors space is four dimensional so the space of linear transformations from it to itself is 4x4= 16 dimensional and a matrix representing any such linear transformation is a 4 by 4 matrix. There is no 2 by 2 matrix such that, multiplied by a 2 by 2 matrix gives its transpose but there is a four by four matrix that, multiplied by the coefficient matrix as given by the ordered basis above, gives the coefficient matrix of its transpose, which is what Linear Algebra says must exist.

In the vector space of two by two matrices, the matrix representing the "transpose" linear transformation is
\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}

Just to double check, OP make sure that your matrix squares to 1 . since ## (A^T)^T=A ##. This is of course necessary but not sufficient.
 
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