Travel back in time, with the help of light?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of using light emitted from Earth to reconstruct a visual "film" of past events on the planet. Participants explore concepts related to light reflection, time, and the implications of observing Earth from a distance, touching on both practical and imaginative aspects of the idea.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of gathering light emitted from Earth to create a visual record of past events, questioning if it could be theoretically possible.
  • Another participant suggests that if a hypothetical "monster mirror" existed far away, it could reflect light from Earth, allowing observers to see the planet as it was in the past, though practical challenges exist.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of suitable mirrors in space and the insufficient number of photons that would be reflected to form a coherent image.
  • One participant humorously speculates about the format in which extraterrestrial observers might send recorded images back to Earth.
  • Another participant calculates the time it would take for a hypothetical rocket with a mirror to travel to a distance where it could observe Earth’s past light, providing a numerical example based on distance and speed.
  • Several participants express fascination with the concept of history being visible as a "movie" in all directions, despite acknowledging its impracticality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the theoretical aspects of the idea but recognize that practical limitations make it impossible to observe past events in this manner. Multiple viewpoints are presented regarding the feasibility and implications of the concept.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumptions about the existence of suitable reflective surfaces in space and the challenges in capturing and reconstructing images from scattered light.

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I'm very sorry for probably posting this in the wrong place, but I'm kind of a newbie when it comes to physics.

this is a question I've had for a long time, and it is really giving me problems sleeping, as i keep wondering if it(at least in theory) could be possible..

here is my question:

do you think it would be possible to somehow gather in the light that has been sent off Earth while it has been here, and somehow use it to piece together a "film" of what has happened on the planet while it has been here..

so that we would send something out there to gather/watch the reflected light and the light we have produced on our own, to find out anything about the planet? and I realize that to do this we would have to send something faster than light itself to see this.. but what if some of the light(or images, if I may call it so) have hit some obstacles on the way, and then been reflected against ourselves again, could we then possibly find something in this light?

I hope I expressed my self clearly enough to get a good answer to this.
thanks for all opinions on this, I wish I had a broader vocabulary, then i guess it could be a lot easier to explain what I'm trying to ask.
 
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I don't know if I understand you correctly, but does your question go like this:
if there were a monster mirror somewhere out in space far far away, would it be possible with a telescope to look at that mirror and see the Earth "in the past" ?

The answer is yes of course. If that monster mirror was, say, at 400 light years from earth, we would now be looking in that mirror at the Earth as it was, 800 years ago.

The practical problem is that there is most probably not a monster mirror in space that moreover is correctly oriented (perpendicular to the line of sight). And from random scattering of light of the Earth by objects in space, that won't cut it I would guess, because I would guess (one should calculate it) that there are simply not enough photons that bounce off in the right direction for a potential image to be formed, even if we could somehow "reconstruct" an image from that in principle.

So, for all practical purposes, WE will never see an old image of the earth.

Of course, if there is life on far away planets and they are watching us, they might tape it and send us the tape one day :smile:
 
What format will they send it in? DVD? BluRay? Or a simple .avi file?

Jks lol
 
vanesch: thanks! :D I really needed a good answer to this. and I wasn't thinking of a mirror, but more of the light reflecting the planets in our solar system.
but you understood my question quite perfectly. and now i got a more reasonable explanation, and it was satisfying :D I will sleep perfectly tonight ;D

BL4CKCR4Y0NS: silly you, of course they will have gotten YellowRay by that time xD
 
360 days in a year times 2 (back and forward ) times 24 hours
divided by the speed a rocket goes in km/h

(1 light year / (365*2*24) ) / 57936 km/h = 9320 hour

9320 / 24 = 388 days a rocket with a mirror should travel in order to see Earth back 1 hour.

if i got everything correct

if you would be able to catch the light of Earth though.

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A mirror on Pluto would already see 10 hours back i guess, since that is 5913520000 km away
 
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hmm :D cool ^^
thanks for the answer citegrene! :D very helpfull ^__^
 
Really cool idea, by the way. Completely impractical but the idea that our history is playing out as a "movie" in all directions is fascinating.

Thank you for the question! The answer is good too :P
 
@Brin yeah I know :P it's sort of fascinating though a bit sad :P because it's not possible to watch x) if it was.. then I'd definitely look to see if I found someone like the doctor :P (from BBC - Dr Who).
 

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