Triangle inequality for distance to set

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The discussion revolves around proving a property related to the distance from a point to a set within a metric space. Specifically, the focus is on the inequality |d(x,A) - d(y,A)| ≤ d(x,y) for points x and y in the metric space X, where A is a subset of X.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of the triangle inequality to establish the desired inequality. Some question the nature of d(x,A) as a metric and its implications for the proof. Others provide specific cases, such as when A consists of two points, to illustrate potential contradictions if the inequality does not hold.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various insights and approaches. Some have suggested specific setups and examples to analyze the inequality, while others have raised concerns about assumptions regarding the points in the set A.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original problem being part of a larger exercise aimed at establishing continuity, and the hint provided in the exercise suggests reliance on the triangle inequality, which has led to further exploration of its implications.

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Homework Statement


If X is a metric space and A is a subset of X, show that

|d(x,A) - d(y,A)|\leq d(x,y)

for any x,y in X.

Homework Equations


Triangle inequality:
|d(x,z) - d(y,z)|\leq d(x,y),

d(x,y)\leq d(x,z)+d(z,y)

The Attempt at a Solution


Fidling around with the triangle inequality.

Edit: This is the third problem in G. Bredon's Topology and Geometry book. The goals of the exercice is to establish the continuity of the map x\mapsto d(x,A), but she gives as a hint, "Use the triangle inequality to show that |d(x,A) - d(y,A)|\leq d(x,y))" from which the result clearly follows in view of the continuity of the map x\mapsto d(x,x_0) for some fixed x_0...

The point of this edit is to bring attention to the exact wording of her hint, from which one can arguably conclude that the result should follow essentially from the triangle inequality.
 
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As I understand it, <br /> |d(x,A) - d(y,A)|\leq d(x,y) should follow from the triangle inequality for d, which is |d(x,z) - d(y,z)|\leq d(x,y) for any x, y and z in X. We know the latter holds because d is a metric. What you want to prove is technically not a triangle inequality, because d(x, A) is not really a metric, in the sense that it doesn't map pairs of points to numbers.
 
Suppose A consists of two points. Label the points x and y so that x is farther from A than y. The only nontrivial case is that x is closer to a different point of A than y. So label the points in A={a,b} so that d(b,x)>d(a,x) and d(a,y)>d(b,y). Now assume the inequality isn't true. |d(x,A)-d(y,A)|>d(x,y) becomes d(x,a)-d(y,b)>d(x,y) -> d(x,a)>d(x,y)+d(y,b)>=d(x,b). That's a contradiction. For a general set A, you should be able to set up some epsilons and find points in A that represent the equivalent of a and b.
 
Dick said:
Suppose A consists of two points. Label the points x and y so that x is farther from A than y. The only nontrivial case is that x is closer to a different point of A than y. So label the points in A={a,b} so that d(b,x)>d(a,x) and d(a,y)>d(b,y). Now assume the inequality isn't true. |d(x,A)-d(y,A)|>d(x,y) becomes d(x,a)-d(y,b)>d(x,y) -> d(x,a)>d(x,y)+d(y,b)>=d(x,b). That's a contradiction. For a general set A, you should be able to set up some epsilons and find points in A that represent the equivalent of a and b.

You can't assume that there exists points in A such that d(x,A) = d(x,a) and similarly for y. The easiest example is if A is open. Then the inf is most likely not in A.
 

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