Trig identities, what does this mean?

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The discussion revolves around trigonometric identities, specifically the identity relating tangent to sine and cosine. The original poster expresses confusion about the meaning of identities in trigonometry and their implications for triangles, despite having a grasp of basic trigonometric ratios and reciprocal identities.

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  • Participants explore the definition of identities, questioning their significance and how they relate to triangle properties. There is a discussion about the nature of sine, cosine, and tangent as functions of angles, and their application beyond right triangles.

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Some participants provide analogies and suggest resources for further understanding, while others clarify the definitions of trigonometric functions. Multiple interpretations of identities and their applications are being explored, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus.

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The original poster seeks explanations that avoid technical jargon and dictionary definitions, indicating a preference for intuitive understanding. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the labeling of triangle sides in relation to angles.

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Tan theta=sin theta/cos theta

What does that identity mean? What does it say about the triangle?

And what on Earth is an identity?

I understand everything taught in the course so far, trig ratios, reciprocal trig ratios, special angles etc etc...but i have no idea what identities mean, some of them i recognize because they are reciprocal trig functions like

sin theta=1/cosecant theta -->which means that sin theta the angle is reciprocal to its cosecant... but Tan theta=Sin theta/cos theta... what does that even mean?or what about cotangent theta = cos theta/sin theta

Im lost mostly in trig identities @_@

and please no dictionary definitions, pretend your trying to explain these concepts to your 80 year old grandma @_@

from what i can gather an identity is basically left side equals right side?

for some reason reciprocal trig identities are easier for me to comprehend...because i know what a reciprocal is

omg i just read a page where it shows the sides as being sin theta and cos theta...i thought theta was for angles then why did they mark the sides of the triangle like this?
 
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for tan theta if you break up sin and cos into their parts, that is op/hy and adj/hp and divide you will get the definition of tan which is op/adj. cot is when you divide cos/sin again the hyp will cancel out.

Identities are like masks to an actor: the same actor can wear many masks. There synonyms telling you the same thing. so yes one side does equal another.

hope this helps a bit
 
I would recommend going to
http://www.khanacademy.org/video/trigonometric-identities?playlist=Trigonometry
And watching this video, along with the following four. He does a good job on breaking it down in simpler terms.
 
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MacLaddy said:
I would recommend going to
http://www.khanacademy.org/video/trigonometric-identities?playlist=Trigonometry
And watching this video, along with the following four. He does a good job on breaking it down in simpler terms.

your right, i just checked it out, makes a whole lot more sense than how the teachers explain it...
 
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Sin(θ) is not an angle, or a side. Sine, Cosine, and Tangent are all functions of angles. In right triangle, these give the ratios of sides.

θ is an angle, however.
 
Are sine, cosine, and tan defined for anything other than a right triangle? and if not why not?
 
Yes; sine, cosine, and tangent are defined for all triangles. They can also be defined without reference to triangles. When working with triangles, oblique triangles are thought of as being two right triangles.
 
armolinasf said:
Are sine, cosine, and tan defined for anything other than a right triangle? and if not why not?

They also apply to oblique triangles, although you have to use the law of sines and cosines.
 

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