Is my trig identity proof correct?

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The discussion revolves around proving a trigonometric identity involving sine and secant functions. The original poster presents their proof attempt and expresses some uncertainty about their method, which differs from typical examples encountered.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the right-hand side of the equation to match the left-hand side, with some questioning the validity of factoring out terms. There are suggestions to explore alternate forms of the identity and to consider different approaches for simplification.

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The conversation includes various perspectives on the proof attempt, with some participants affirming the original poster's work while others express doubt about specific steps. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants note that the original poster is new to using reciprocal trigonometric functions and is seeking clarification on their understanding of the topic. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in manipulating trigonometric identities.

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Hi there,

This is my very first post, so I'd like to say thanks for reading and hi basically. :biggrin:

I'm relatively confident my attempt at the proof is correct, but since the method is quite different from other examples I have seen, it kind of makes me nervous. I was hoping someone could verify my answer?

Homework Statement



Prove that:

[itex]\sin^2\theta (1 + sec^2\theta) = sec^2 \theta - cos^2 \theta[/itex]

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



So I try manipulate the right hand side to take exactly the same form as the left. First I rewrite the terms as their 'ordinary' equivalents:

##\dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} - \cos^2 \theta##

##\dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} + \sin^2 \theta - 1##

I then combine the trig terms:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta} - 1##

Now I assimilate the constant term of -1:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta - \cos^2\theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta}##

I now use the fact that ##-\cos^2 \theta + 1 = \sin^2 \theta##:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta}{\cos^2 \theta}##

I remove the common factor of ##\sin^2 \theta## from the numerator:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta( \cos^2 \theta + 1)}{\cos^2 \theta}##

Next I split the fraction into its constituent products:

##\sin^2 \theta \left(\dfrac{\cos^2 \theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta} \right)##

Simplifying:

##\sin^2 \theta \left(1 + \dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} \right) \equiv \sin^2\theta (1 + sec^2\theta)##

Have I gone wrong anywhere at all or does this work just fine? Thanks a lot!

~Snooz
 
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Snoozems said:
I remove the common factor of ##\sin^2 \theta## from the numerator:

No, you do not. You did not remove anything at all. If you had done so, it would be wrong.
I may be wrong about this.

Snoozems said:
Have I gone wrong anywhere at all or does this work just fine? Thanks a lot!

Works just fine.
I may be wrong about this, too.

Doubtful poster is doubtful.
 
Snoozems said:
Hi there,

This is my very first post, so I'd like to say thanks for reading and hi basically. :biggrin:

I'm relatively confident my attempt at the proof is correct, but since the method is quite different from other examples I have seen, it kind of makes me nervous. I was hoping someone could verify my answer?

Homework Statement



Prove that:

[itex]\sin^2\theta (1 + sec^2\theta) = sec^2 \theta - cos^2 \theta[/itex]

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



So I try manipulate the right hand side to take exactly the same form as the left. First I rewrite the terms as their 'ordinary' equivalents:

##\dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} - \cos^2 \theta##

##\dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} + \sin^2 \theta - 1##

I then combine the trig terms:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta} - 1##

Now I assimilate the constant term of -1:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta - \cos^2\theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta}##

I now use the fact that ##-\cos^2 \theta + 1 = \sin^2 \theta##:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta \cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta}{\cos^2 \theta}##

I remove the common factor of ##\sin^2 \theta## from the numerator:

##\dfrac{\sin^2 \theta( \cos^2 \theta + 1)}{\cos^2 \theta}##

Next I split the fraction into its constituent products:

##\sin^2 \theta \left(\dfrac{\cos^2 \theta + 1}{\cos^2 \theta} \right)##

Simplifying:

##\sin^2 \theta \left(1 + \dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} \right) \equiv \sin^2\theta (1 + sec^2\theta)##

Have I gone wrong anywhere at all or does this work just fine? Thanks a lot!

~Snooz

It looks good.

If i were to rewrite the LHS as ##\sin^2\theta+\tan^2\theta##, do you (a) see how I got that and (b) see how to get to the RHS in two very straightforward steps?

Sometimes with these types of problems, it's "fun" to find alternate ways of doing the problems that are potentially easier. It's a skill that'll come in handy down the road if you continue on to calculus.
 
mafagafo said:
No, you do not. You did not remove anything at all. If you had done so, it would be wrong.
I may be wrong about this.
Works just fine.
I may be wrong about this, too.

Doubtful poster is doubtful.

Thanks for replying! Yeah it struck me that when I wrote 'removed' that maybe didn't sound exactly right. What I mean to say is I factored the numerator using that common factor of ##\sin^2 \theta##.

gopher_p said:
It looks good.

If i were to rewrite the LHS as ##\sin^2\theta+\tan^2\theta##, do you (a) see how I got that and (b) see how to get to the RHS in two very straightforward steps?

Sometimes with these types of problems, it's "fun" to find alternate ways of doing the problems that are potentially easier. It's a skill that'll come in handy down the road if you continue on to calculus.

Thanks, I'm glad it looks all right. I was conscious when I was doing it this was a very long way round of doing it, and I'm very new to using reciprocal trigonometric functions so it isn't quite free flowing yet. In fact, trigonometry is one area of mathematics I haven't given equal attention, and for no good reason.

Haha! Yes, for (a) you just expanded the bracket, and I see how you arrived at (b):

##\sin^2 \theta + \dfrac{\sin^2 \theta}{\cos^2 \theta}##

Since ##\tan^2 \theta = \sec^2 \theta - 1##:

##\sin^2 \theta + \dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} - 1##

Also ##\sin^2 \theta - 1 = - \cos^2 \theta##, so:

##\dfrac{1}{\cos^2 \theta} - \cos^2 \theta##

Geez! That was much quicker. I'm going to need to put a good bit more practice in here. Thank you very much guys.
 
The left hand side contains ##\sin## and ##\sec##, and the right hand size has ##\cos## and ##\sec##.

So just shoot to kill and change the ##\sin## to ##\cos##.

LHS = ##(1 - \cos^2\theta)(1 + \sec^2\theta)## and multiply out :smile:
 
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