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The discussion revolves around solving the equation csc²(x/2) = 2sec(x), which involves trigonometric identities and transformations. Participants are exploring various approaches to find all solutions for x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss different methods to manipulate the equation, including cross-multiplying and using double angle formulas. There are questions about the correctness of certain transformations and the implications of the identity versus solving for specific values.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and corrections. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of half-angle and double-angle formulas, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the transformations of trigonometric identities and the interpretation of the original problem statement. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of specific steps taken in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Need some help finding all solutions for x...

csc^2((x)/(2)) = 2secx




The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure what kind of approach to take but:

1/ sin^2(x/2) = 2/ cos x

From here Not sure what to do i tried cross multiplying and got cos x = 2sin^2(x/2) but got no idea from here... please help
 
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Does anyone have an explanation for this solution?? someone just sent it:

csc^2(x/2)=2secx
2/(1-cosx)=2secx
2=2secx(1-cosx)
1=secx-1
2=secx
π/3+2πk=x
5π/3+2πk=x

However i do think he's missing a squared? Can anyone explain this formula?
 
Is your problem

cosec2(x/2) = secx

or

½cosec2(x)=secx


If it is the first one, then your double angle formulas for cos2x will help you out here greatly.
 
Stanc said:
Does anyone have an explanation for this solution?? someone just sent it:

csc^2(x/2)=2secx
2/(1-cosx)=2secx
The line above is incorrect on the left side. It should be
2/(1 - cos2(x/2)) = 2sec(x)
Stanc said:
2=2secx(1-cosx)
1=secx-1
2=secx
π/3+2πk=x
5π/3+2πk=x

However i do think he's missing a squared? Can anyone explain this formula?

To solve this equation, convert everything into terms involving cosine. You need the double angle formula to convert cos(x) into cos(2 * x/2).

BTW, your title is misleading. You do not "solve" an identity - you prove that an equation is identically true (true for all or most values of the variable). What this seems to be is an equation to solve for specific values of x.
 
Stanc said:

Homework Statement


Need some help finding all solutions for x...

csc^2((x)/(2)) = 2secx

The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure what kind of approach to take but:

1/ sin^2(x/2) = 2/ cos x

From here Not sure what to do i tried cross multiplying and got cos x = 2sin^2(x/2) but got no idea from here... please help
I would be inclined to go from where you are here
cos(x) = 2sin^2(x/2)​
and use the double angle formula to convert cos(x) to a form having sin(x/2). In other words, think of cos(x) as cos(2(x/2)) .

Then you will have an expression involving only sin(x/2) .
 
SammyS said:
I would be inclined to go from where you are here
cos(x) = 2sin^2(x/2)​
and use the double angle formula to convert cos(x) to a form having sin(x/2). In other words, think of cos(x) as cos(2(x/2)) .

Then you will have an expression involving only sin(x/2) .

So basically change cosx into 1-sin^2(x/2) ??
 
Stanc said:
So basically change cosx into 1-sin^2(x/2) ??
NO, cos x is NOT equal to 1- sin^2(x/2). It is equal to 1- sin^2(x). You could then use the identity sin(x)= 2sin(x/2)cos(x/2).
 
Mark44 said:
The line above is incorrect on the left side. It should be
2/(1 - cos2(x/2)) = 2sec(x) To solve this equation, convert everything into terms involving cosine. You need the double angle formula to convert cos(x) into cos(2 * x/2).

BTW, your title is misleading. You do not "solve" an identity - you prove that an equation is identically true (true for all or most values of the variable). What this seems to be is an equation to solve for specific values of x.

Sorry for the title too
Sorry i do not follow why you have the 2 over in 2/(1-cos^2(x/2))
 
HallsofIvy said:
NO, cos x is NOT equal to 1- sin^2(x/2). It is equal to 1- sin^2(x). You could then use the identity sin(x)= 2sin(x/2)cos(x/2).

Thanks, i wasnt too sure about that part... But isn't it cos^2x that is suppose to equal 1 - sin^2x?
 
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Stanc said:

Homework Statement


Need some help finding all solutions for x...

csc^2((x)/(2)) = 2secx




The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure what kind of approach to take but:

1/ sin^2(x/2) = 2/ cos x

From here Not sure what to do i tried cross multiplying and got cos x = 2sin^2(x/2) but got no idea from here... please help

Apply the half-angle formula: sin2(x/2)=(1-cosx)/2

ehild
 
  • #11
ehild said:
Apply the half-angle formula: sin2(x/2)=(1-cosx)/2

ehild


Yes, i can solve it with the half angle formula but was wondering if i could solve it without that formula...
 
  • #12
You need to use either the half-angle formula or the double-angle one.

ehild
 
  • #13
ehild said:
You need to use either the half-angle formula or the double-angle one.

ehild

How would i approach it with double angle? I followed some of the steps and came with this

1/1-cos^2(x/2) = 2/cos2(x/2)

2-2cos^2(x/2) = cos2(x/2)

Is this right?
 
  • #14
Stanc said:
So basically change cosx into 1-sin^2(x/2) ??

Not quite:

cos(x) = 1 - 2sin2(x/2)
 
  • #15
SammyS said:
Not quite:

cos(x) = 1 - 2sin2(x/2)

Oh ya, sorry about that, so from here i have:

1-2sin^2(x/2) = 2sin^2(x/2)

If i move the right side over i would get:

1-4sin^2(x/2) = 0

sin^2(x/2) = 1/4

Square root it:

sin(x/2) = 1/2?

I think that's correct, right?
 
  • #16
sin(x/2) = ±1/2.

ehild
 
  • #17
Stanc said:
Sorry for the title too
Sorry i do not follow why you have the 2 over in 2/(1-cos^2(x/2))
That 2 shouldn't be there. The line I was correcting had 2/(1 - cos(x)), and I brought that 2 along, not noticing that it was wrong as well.
 
  • #18
ehild said:
sin(x/2) = ±1/2.

ehild

Thanks., but the answers i get are pi/6 and 5pi/6 while the answers are pi/3 and 5pi/3

Anything i have to do?
 
  • #19
Stanc said:
Thanks., but the answers i get are pi/6 and 5pi/6 while the answers are pi/3 and 5pi/3

Anything i have to do?
If x/2 = π/6 , then x = π/3 ...
 

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