Trig Problem: Finding Principle Values of x

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The discussion revolves around solving a trigonometric equation, specifically 2sin²x-1=0, for different ranges of x: principal values, values within 0° to 180°, and all possible values of x. The subject area is trigonometry, focusing on sine functions and their properties.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for principal values and values within a specified range but expresses confusion about the third part of the problem. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's algebraic manipulations and suggest reconsidering the approach to the equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's work, providing feedback and questioning assumptions. There is an acknowledgment of errors in the original poster's expressions and a suggestion to clarify terminology and notation. The discussion is ongoing, with no consensus reached yet.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct range for part b, which should be 0°≤x≤180°, and the original poster admits to a typographical error in their initial post. Participants are also addressing the need for clearer mathematical expressions and definitions.

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I have a trig problem that i need help with. I have done a) & b) but not c) because i don't get it.

Solve the following for:

a) principle values of x
b) 0°≤x≥180°
c) all values of x


1. 2sin²x-1=0


my work:

1a. principle values of x

sinx(2sin)-1 = 0

sinx(2sin)=1

sinx=1

(2sin/2)=
sin=½

1b. 0°≤x≥180°

sin1/2=±√1-cosx/2
2sin²x-1=0
2sin²x=1
2sin(sinx)=1
2sin/2=1/2
sin=1/2

sin½= 30°,90°

1c. all values of x
?
 
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Your initial working should be the same for all 3 parts, it's just the difference in the range of x for each part that results in you having different answers.

In your working, you wrote:
2sin²x-1=0
sinx(2sinx)=1 **
sinx=1 or 2sinx=1
sinx=1 or sinx=0.5

This does not seem right! You can only use this method if the right hand side of equation ** equals zero. Can you think of another way to do this? Note that there is only 1 sinx term in the original equation.

Also, do you know what the principal region for sinx is? For part b, I believe the range should be 0°≤x≤180°. And finally, for part c, you need to find a general solution which can "generate" all the possible values of x.

Please also take note of your expressions. For your working in part b, expressions like "2sin(sinx)=1" and "sin½= 30°,90°" don't seem very right.
 
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I have a trig problem that i need help with. I have done a) & b) but not c) because i don't get it.

Solve the following for:

a) principle values of x
b) 0°≤x≥180°
c) all values of x


1. 2sin²x-1=0


my work:

1a. principle values of x

sinx(2sin)-1 = 0

sinx(2sin)=1
Please, please, please, learn to write exactly what you mean! I have no idea what "sinx(2sin)" could mean! If you don't want to use Tex or html codes, you could just say sin^2(x)= 1.

[tex]<b> <u>sinx=1</u></b>[/tex]
[tex] Okay, this at least makes sense but I don't see where you got it from<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> (2sin/2)= <br /> <b> <u>sin=½</u></b> </div> </div> </blockquote> sine is a <b>function</b>! It makes no sense to say "2sin/2" or <br /> "sin= 1/2".<br /> sin(x)= 1/2. But you still haven't answered the question. What is x?<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> 1b. 0°≤x≥180°<br /> <br /> sin1/2=±√1-cosx/2<br /> 2sin²x-1=0<br /> 2sin²x=1<br /> 2sin(sinx)=1<br /> 2sin/2=1/2<br /> sin=1/2 </div> </div> </blockquote>I have absolutely no idea what you are doing here!<br /> The "principal" value is the single value of x between [itex]-\frac{\pi}{2}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{\pi}{2}[/itex] that gives sin(x)= 1/2. Since that is positive, yes, x must be positive. You still haven't said what that is. You can't do (b) until you have done (a). <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <u><b>sin½= 30°,90°</b></u> </div> </div> </blockquote>Once again, makes no sense! According to my calculator, sin(1/2 (radian))= 0.47942553860420300027328793521557. If you mean arcsin(1/2) or <br /> sin<sup>-1</sup>(1/2), say so! In any case, sin(90°)= 1, not 1/2.<br /> However, you want 2sin<sup>2</sup>(x)- 1= 0 or [itex]sin(x)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/itex]. My calculator gives, as principal value (part (a) again!), x= 45°. You should know that sin(180°- x)= sin(x) so the other value, in [itex]0\le x \le 180[/itex] is 180- 45= 135°.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> 1c. all values of x<br /> ? </div> </div> </blockquote> sine is periodic with period 360°. Take the two values you got for x between 0 and 180° (the only two solution between 0 and 360°) and add 360n to them.[/tex]
 
OOPS! i guest i made a lot of mistakes.:frown:
ill go back over my work and reread the chapter, and thanks for checking my answers.

oh yeah, and it was 0≤x≤180...... i am really sorry i mistyped it.:frown:
 

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