Trig substitution into integrals

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The discussion revolves around the use of trigonometric substitution in evaluating the convergence of a series, specifically the series ∑(1/(n^2 - 1)) from n=3 to infinity. Participants explore the implications of substituting n with 2sin(u) and the challenges posed by the upper bound of infinity in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is valid to use the substitution n = 2sin(u) given that the upper bound of the integral approaches infinity, which may not be compatible with the sine function's range.
  • Another participant suggests that the substitution can still be made by considering the limit as the upper bound approaches infinity.
  • A third participant expresses concern that since the argument of arcsine is limited to the range of -1 to 1, the substitution may not be valid due to the undefined nature of arcsin(infinity).
  • Another participant proposes that for this integral, using sec(u) as a substitution might be more appropriate, while also noting that partial fractions could be a simpler method for integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the trigonometric substitution in this context. While some believe it can be applied with limits, others raise concerns about the implications of infinity within the sine function. There is no consensus on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations regarding the range of the arcsine function and the appropriateness of different substitution methods for this integral. The discussion remains open regarding the best technique for evaluating the integral.

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I was testing for convergence of a series:
∑\frac{1}{n^2 -1} from n=3 to infinity

I used the integral test, substituting n as 2sin(u)

so here's the question:
when using the trig substitution, I realized the upperbound, infinity, would fit inside the sine.

Is it still possible to make the substitution? Or is there a restriction when this happens?
 
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tadf2 said:
I was testing for convergence of a series:
∑\frac{1}{n^2 -1} from n=3 to infinity

I used the integral test, substituting n as 2sin(u)

so here's the question:
when using the trig substitution, I realized the upperbound, infinity, would fit inside the sine.
What does "fit inside the sine" mean?
tadf2 said:
Is it still possible to make the substitution? Or is there a restriction when this happens?
Sure, you can make the substitution. The integral will be from 3 to, say b, and you take the limit as b → ∞.

Not that you asked, but it's probably simpler and quicker to break up 1/(n2 - 1) using partial fractions.
 
Inside the sine meaning, the argument of the 'arcsine' would only range from -1 to 1.
So I'm guessing you can't make the substitution because arcsin(infinity) = error?
 
If you're looking for an appropriate trig substitution for the definite integral (and not just one that gets you a correct antidierivative), then ##\sec u## is the way to go. But like Mark44 said, partial fractions is really the "right" technique of integration for this particular integral.
 

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