Trigonometric Identity: Double Angle.

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the geometry of a lawnmower blade, specifically focusing on deriving an equation for its cross-sectional area in relation to an angle ∅. The problem involves trigonometric identities, particularly the double angle identity for sine.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss expressing the area of the blade in terms of the angle ∅ and the implications of the problem statement regarding finding a specific value for ∅. There are attempts to derive relationships using trigonometric functions, but confusion arises about the meaning of the problem's requirements.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the problem's phrasing and the relationship between the angle ∅ and the area. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric expressions, but there is no consensus on how to proceed further.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may be improperly stated, leading to confusion about the relationship between the angle ∅ and the area of the blade. There is a lack of specific values or constraints provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



Here is the question given:

A blade for a lawnmower consists of two parts made of the same material and joined together as shown:

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The length OP is one unit in length and MPQN is square in shape.

Develop an equation for the cross-sectional area of the blade and find the magnitude of angle ∅ to give the area of the blade.

Homework Equations



sin 2 ∅ = 2 ((sin ∅) (cos ∅)

The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt? I've tried deriving the double angle equation but can't get anywhere... :( basically there is only one known piece of info (in the hypotenuse being one unit in length)...
 
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Jessbek said:

Homework Statement



Here is the question given:

A blade for a lawnmower consists of two parts made of the same material and joined together as shown:

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The length OP is one unit in length and MPQN is square in shape.

Develop an equation for the cross-sectional area of the blade and find the magnitude of angle ∅ to give the area of the blade.

Homework Equations



sin 2 ∅ = 2 ((sin ∅) (cos ∅)

The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt? I've tried deriving the double angle equation but can't get anywhere... :( basically there is only one known piece of info (in the hypotenuse being one unit in length)...

I guess you mean express the area of the blade in terms of ##\phi##. Use trig to express PM and OM in terms of ##\phi##, then use that to calculate the two areas.
 
LCKurtz said:
I guess you mean express the area of the blade in terms of ##\phi##. Use trig to express PM and OM in terms of ##\phi##, then use that to calculate the two areas.

I know what you mean and thank you.

But what I don't know is what to do from there to get some physical/actual answer...
 
Jessbek said:
I know what you mean and thank you.

But what I don't know is what to do from there to get some physical/actual answer...

Well, I don't know what else to do either because the statement "find the magnitude of angle ∅ to give the area of the blade" doesn't mean anything to me.
 
LCKurtz said:
Well, I don't know what else to do either because the statement "find the magnitude of angle ∅ to give the area of the blade" doesn't mean anything to me.

I think it simply means find the value of theta, and in turn, use that value to find the surface area of the blade.
 
LCKurtz said:
Well, I don't know what else to do either because the statement "find the magnitude of angle ∅ to give the area of the blade" doesn't mean anything to me.

Jessbek said:
I think it simply means find the value of theta, and in turn, use that value to find the surface area of the blade.

But there isn't "a value of ##\phi##". As ##\phi## varies so does the area. You can express the area in terms of ##\phi##. I think the rest of the problem isn't properly stated.
 
LCKurtz said:
But there isn't "a value of ##\phi##". As ##\phi## varies so does the area. You can express the area in terms of ##\phi##. I think the rest of the problem isn't properly stated.

I know and this is what confuses me. You can express the area in terms of ##\phi## yes, but this won't get me anywhere. I have written the question essentially the same, so maybe there is an error with the question.
 

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