Trigonometric Limit: Solve the Expression

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric limit expression encountered in a quantum mechanics context, specifically involving sine and cosine functions with a small parameter epsilon. Participants are attempting to derive the expression and clarify the intermediate steps involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a trigonometric limit expression and requests assistance in understanding the derivation.
  • Another participant suggests using trigonometric identities, specifically the sine and cosine of sums, to aid in the derivation.
  • A participant expresses frustration at arriving at an incorrect answer and shares their miscalculation.
  • A later reply acknowledges the mistake and encourages a reevaluation of the cosine term at specific values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct steps to derive the expression, and multiple approaches and interpretations are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the behavior of trigonometric functions as epsilon approaches zero.

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I met the following expression in a QM book:

[itex] \frac{sin[(n+1/2)\pi+\epsilon]}{cos[(n+1/2)\pi+\epsilon]}=\frac{(-1)^n\cos(\epsilon)}{(-1)^{n+1}\sin(\epsilon)}[/itex]

where [itex] \epsilon << 1[/itex]



No matter how hard I try (sine of sum, etc.), I can't see the intermediate steps to this result.

Please, help.
 
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Hi intervoxel! :smile:

(have a pi: π and an epsilon:ε :wink:)

Learn your trigonometric identities …

sin(A+B) = sinAcosB + cosAsinB

cos(A+B) = cosAcosB - sinAsinB

sin(n + 1/2)π = (-1)n

cos(n + 1/2)π = (-1)n+1 :wink:
 
Oh, come on, tiny-tim, I'm stuck in this problem.

I arrive at the (wrong) answer: -(cos(ε)-sin(ε)) / (cos(ε)+sin(ε))=-(1-ε)/(1+ε) and not -1/ε, which is correct.
 
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oops!

oops! :redface:

What was I thinking? :rolleyes:

(lesson: check what people tell you, not only to see why it works but sometimes to see whether it works, or you'll never learn anything!)

Try it again … this time with cos(n + 1/2)π = 0. :smile:
 
Thank you for your help.
 

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