Trigonometry elementary problem

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The problem involves proving a trigonometric identity related to sine and cosine functions, specifically starting from the equation 3 sin θ + 5 cos θ = 5 and aiming to show that 5 sin θ - 3 cos θ equals ±3.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods to manipulate the given equation, including the use of squares and the angle sum formula for sine. Some express uncertainty about the necessity of specific techniques, while others suggest alternative approaches.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the angle sum formula, and there is acknowledgment of the effectiveness of certain strategies, though no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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Participants question the requirement of using specific trigonometric identities and express varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


If 3 sin theta + 5cos theta = 5 ... prove that 5sin theta - 3 cos theta = +- 3


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i tried many things here , mostly those including squares , because i need +-3 , but this one has me stumped :/
 
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sambarbarian said:

Homework Statement


If 3 sin theta + 5cos theta = 5 ... prove that 5sin theta - 3 cos theta = +- 3

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



i tried many things here , mostly those including squares , because i need +-3 , but this one has me stumped :/

Are you familiar with this "trick": [itex]a\sin \theta + b\cos \theta = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2}\sin(\theta + \arctan{\frac{b}{a}})[/itex]?
 
never heard of it
 
sambarbarian said:
never heard of it

It's basically the angle sum formula for sine. Try expanding [itex]R\sin(\theta + \alpha)[/itex] and compare coefficients to [itex]a \sin \theta + b \cos \theta[/itex].
 
can this question be solved without it ?>
 
sambarbarian said:
can this question be solved without it ?>

Not easily, I think. But why don't you want to try this? Haven't you covered the angle sum formula at all?
 
You can try writing [itex]5cosθ=5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/itex]. Taking this term to RHS,
you will get an equation
[tex]3sinθ-5=-5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/tex]
Square both the sides, the equation will be easy to solve and you will get two values for θ.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
You can try writing [itex]5cosθ=5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/itex]. Taking this term to RHS,
you will get an equation
[tex]3sinθ-5=-5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/tex]
Square both the sides, the equation will be easy to solve and you will get two values for θ.
Very good ! :smile:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
You can try writing [itex]5cosθ=5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/itex]. Taking this term to RHS,
you will get an equation
[tex]3sinθ-5=-5\sqrt{1-sin^2θ}[/tex]
Square both the sides, the equation will be easy to solve and you will get two values for θ.

thank you! that did the trick
 
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SammyS said:
Very good ! :smile:

Thank you SammyS! :smile:
 

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