Triple integral problem: cylindrical coordinates

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The discussion centers on calculating the volume of Torricelli's Trumpet using triple integrals in cylindrical coordinates. The integral is defined as V = ∫₀¹ ∫₀²π ∫₁¹/r r dx dφ dr, where the volume element in cylindrical coordinates is d³r = dr dφ dx r. Participants clarify the bounds for the integrals, emphasizing that the lowest x-coordinate is 0 and the maximum is always 1/r. The half in front of the triple integral represents the volume of one horn of Gabriel's Horn, which is a specific case of Torricelli's Trumpet.

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I have a graph 1/x^2=y^2+z^2 where z=rsin(θ) and y=rcos(θ)
where 0≤r≤1 and 0≤θ≤2∏ on the zy-plane

The end result is attached (sorry, I'm not aware of how to use Latex :[ )
I can kind of understand how they determined the first bounds for the integral: the lowest x co-ordinate is 0 and the maximum co-ordinate is always 1/r. I can also kind of understand how they determined the second integral bounds, the maximum possible value for r is 1 and the lowest possible value for r is 0. For the angle the largest possible angle is 2∏ whereas the lowest possible angle is 0. I do not, however, understand why there is a half in front of the triple integral.
 

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hi jackscholar! :smile:

i don't understand what the question is …

is it to find a volume, if so of what?
jackscholar said:
the lowest x co-ordinate is 0 and the maximum co-ordinate is always 1/r

surely it's from 1 to 1/r ? :confused:
 
I am trying to determine the volume for Torricelli's Trumpet. I've done it the conventional way but have been want to prove it using the triple integral method. I stumbled across a website which stated a few things and got to the answer but it didn't explain how. I have proved the surface area using a different method to the disk method and would like to prove the volume using a different method but I'm not too good at triple integrals. The website is below, what I was looking at was on page 18 near the bottom and 19 near the top. Could you help m interpret what they are trying to do?

This is the website: http://www.palmbeachstate.edu/honors/documents/jeansergejoseph.pdf
 
It's easy: it's just the volume of ONE of the horns.
 
How would I calculate the volume of one of the horns using a triple integral, though?
 
You use the cylindrical coordinates as given in #1:
\vec{r}=(x,r \cos \varphi,r \sin \varphi).
Then the boundary surface for one half of the horn is given as
x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{y^2+z^2}}=\frac{1}{r}.
Now the volume element in cylinder coordinates is
\mathrm{d}^3 \vec{r}=\mathrm{d} r \mathrm{d} \varphi \mathrm{d} x r.

Now using the definition for Gabriel's horn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel's_Horn

It's volume is given by
V=\int_0^1 \mathrm{d} r \int_0^{\varphi} \mathrm{d} \varphi \int_{1}^{1/r} \mathrm{d} x r.
Now you can easily evaluate the integral yourself.
 

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