Trouble finding F(x) for a particle moving on a horizontal plane

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle of mass m moving on a frictionless, horizontal plane with a speed described by the function v(x) = k/x. The objective is to determine the force F(x) acting on the particle based on its speed and position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the speed function to find the acceleration and subsequently the force. They express uncertainty about their results, questioning their correctness. Other participants suggest substituting the expression for speed back into the force equation to express F as a function of x.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and confirming the original poster's calculations. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the relationship between velocity and force, with some participants expressing their own struggles with calculus, which adds a personal touch to the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of a potential misunderstanding or lack of confidence in the calculus involved, as the original poster expresses doubt about their straightforward solution. The discussion also highlights the importance of expressing force as a function of position rather than velocity.

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Homework Statement



A particle of mass m moves along a frictionless, horizontal plane with a speed given by v(x)=k/x, where x is its distance from the origin and k is a positive constant. Find the force F(x) to which the particle is subject.

Homework Equations



F(x)=m\ddot{x}
\ddot{x}=\frac{d\dot{x}}{dt}=\frac{dx}{dt} \frac{d\dot{x}}{dx}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

The Attempt at a Solution


So i figured, if i differentiate v(x)=k/x I end up with v'(x)=-k/x^2, so F(x)= m\ddot{x} and if I substitute my expression for \ddot{x} I end up with F(x)=-mvk/x^2. Why do I get the feeling I'm all wrong about this one?
 
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hi astenroo! :smile:
astenroo said:
… I end up with F(x)=-mvk/x^2. Why do I get the feeling I'm all wrong about this one?

dunno :confused:

looks ok … now get rid of the v, to make F a function of x :smile:
 
Remember that v = k/x. Plug that back into your expression for F(x).
 
Heh, I actually suck at calculus, so when I end up with a fairly straight forward solution, I get the feeling I've done something wrong :) Calculus cannot be simple :D

So, my first attempt was F(x)=-mvk/x^2, and if v(x)=k/x then F(x)=-mk^2/x^3.

Thanks for the hints.
 
btw, note that vdv/dx can also be written d/dx (1/2 v2) :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
btw, note that vdv/dx can also be written d/dx (1/2 v2) :wink:

Heh, so true. Thank you :)
 

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