Trouble understanding - to + vs + to - current flow

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of current flow in relation to magnetic flux, particularly in the context of figures from a specific article. The original poster is exploring the differences between current flow from positive to negative and negative to positive terminals, seeking clarity on the conventions used in physics and electronics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile the differing representations of current flow in various figures and articles. Some participants question the implications of current direction in both DC and AC circuits, while others discuss the conventions of current flow in physics versus electronics.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, providing clarifications about current flow conventions and the distinction between physics and electronics perspectives. There is a recognition of the importance of consistency in terminology and understanding the underlying principles of charge movement.

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There are references to potential confusion arising from older texts that may define current direction differently. The discussion also touches on the behavior of charge carriers in conductors versus semiconductors, indicating a complexity in the topic that may require further exploration.

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When reading about directions of magnetic flux in relation to current flow on pages 6 to 8 of http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Non-Ferrous-Magnet.pdf , I found that in figure 11 the current is traveling from + to - terminals, while in figure 12, the current flows from - to + terminals. I am still learning about the basics of circuitry and magnetism, and I want to understand why and how a current can flow in both directions.

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None that I know of. If there are some I would like to be enlightened.

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After reading this article "http://www.blueraja.com/blog/179/do...tive-to-negative-or-from-negative-to-positive" I found that from a Physics standpoint a current would travel from - to + in reference to electron flow, but in electronics it doesn't matter. Why doesn't it matter? Can a current move both ways or only one?
 

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Looks like you caught an error in the text! The two arrows in figure 12 should be reversed so that current will be flowing from + to - in the wires. The directions of the magnetic fields in fig 12 should also be reversed.
 
Oh, ok. Does this mean that currents ,in reference to an electrical perspective (as opposed to a Physics perspective), always travel from + to - in DC and AC currents, or are there exceptions?
 
As long as you take current to be in the direction that positive charge would flow, then current will always flow in a conductor from higher potential to lower potential. The + and - refer to regions of higher and lower potential respectively. This is true in both DC and AC circuits. In AC, the potentials of the two ends of a conductor are alternating in regard to which end is at the higher potential.

The usual convention in physics today is to take current to be in the direction that positive charge would flow, therefore opposite to the direction of electron flow. I believe that this is also the usual convention being used in electronics. However,some older texts take the direction of electron flow to define current direction. So, you have to be careful when switching between different books.
 
That makes sense. Thanks for setting things straight and informing me of the standard current conventions used today.
 
TSny said:
The usual convention in physics today is to take current to be in the direction that positive charge would flow, therefore opposite to the direction of electron flow. I believe that this is also the usual convention being used in electronics. However,some older texts take the direction of electron flow to define current direction. So, you have to be careful when switching between different books.
pecchiaw12 said:
That makes sense. Thanks for setting things straight and informing me of the standard current conventions used today.

It doesn't matter too much which one you use, as long as you state which and stick to it through out a given discussion when talking generally

but you need to know and understand that current IS the flow of electrons from negative to positive
This is because the electrons are the mobile charge carriers ... the positive ions in a wire don't move ! ... they are fixed in the atomic lattice of the conductor and don't go anywhere
The only real variation to this is when dealing with semiconductors where things get a little more complicatedDave
 

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