Truck deceleration to prevent box from sliding

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the minimum stopping distance of a truck to prevent a box from sliding, given the coefficient of static friction and the truck's initial speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of mass in the calculations and explore the forces acting on the box during deceleration. There is a focus on deriving the maximum possible acceleration without sliding and how to apply it in kinematic equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying concepts related to static friction and acceleration. Some have provided guidance on using free body diagrams and Newton's laws, while others are questioning the application of derived values in the kinematic equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the values used for acceleration and the interpretation of signs in the equations. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding about the relationship between the forces and the resulting motion of the box.

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Homework Statement


The coefficient of static friction between the floor of a truck and a box resting on it is 0.38. The truck is traveling at 69.7 km/hr. What is the least distance in which the truck can stop and ensure that the box does not slide?


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Not a clue, don't you need at least one mass?
 
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No. Try drawing a free body diagram of the box and note the forces acting on it. Then use Newton's laws.
 


Basically the problem is about the maximum possible acceleration of the truck (to rest) such that the box remains in static equilibrium.
Consider the forces acting on the box when the truck is decelerating to rest. You will realize that the mass m of the box eventually cancels off to give a nice expression.
 


So you'd get

\mus *mg = ma

\mus *g = a

How does this help any?
 


Doesn't that tell you the maximum acceleration that the box (hence, the truck) can have such that it won't start sliding?
 


Then what would you plug that into? I used:

vf2 - vo2 = 2a\Deltax

Which would give you:

\frac{-v_o^2}{2a}

But plugging in the numbers doesn't make sense. Because it'd look like: (velocity is in m/s)

\frac{-19.36^2}{2(3.4)}
 


Since you are taking v_o as positive, the acceleration, in the opposite direction, is negative. That will give you a positive delta x. Also mu(g) is not 3.4, (.38(9.8) = 3.7).
 


PhanthomJay said:
Since you are taking v_o as positive, the acceleration, in the opposite direction, is negative. That will give you a positive delta x. Also mu(g) is not 3.4, (.38(9.8) = 3.7).

Yes, I know, I did it earlier and I knew it was 3.something. But that wasn't what I was meaning, based off of that, the truck can stop in 50 m and the box will not slide?
 


That looks about right. Just be sure to read the above posts to convince yourself why that is the correct solution.
 

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