Tungsten wires of all electric light bulbs

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between the dimensions of tungsten filaments in electric light bulbs and their power consumption. It emphasizes that for filaments to glow at similar temperatures, the ratio of resistance to the square of the length must remain constant at a given voltage. The participants explore how this leads to the equations for the ratios of radius and length between two bulbs based on their power consumption. The conversation reveals a struggle with applying formulas correctly to derive the required relationships. Overall, the thread seeks clarification on the mathematical connections needed to solve the problem.
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I'm looking for a jump start with this one. I'm having trouble getting started.

The tungsten wires of all electric light bulbs are designed to glow at about the same temperature. This requires, as a first approximation, that the power per unit surface area of the filament be the same for all.

a) Show that this leads to the requirement, at constant voltage, that r/l^2 is constant, where r is the radius and l is the length of the filament.

b) If P2/P1 = n is the ratio of the power consumption of two different light bulbs, show that r2/r1 = n^(2/3) and that l2/l1 = n^(1/3).

I've got lots of formulas, but I'm having trouble putting them together to show what a) and b) ask for. I'm sure once I get a), b) will follow easily.

P = I^2*R => I is current; R is resistance
R = pl/A => p is resistivity; A is surface area; l is length
A = [pi]r^2

P = I^2(pl/A) => P = I^2(pl/([pi]r^2))

P = V^2/R where V is potential
V^2 = (I^2)(R^2) => V = IR

So I'm going around in circles and getting nowhere.

Any clues would be greatly appreciated. I have a feeling the answer is staring me straight in the face, but I'm not seeing it.

Thanks much.
 
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Originally posted by discoverer02
that the power per unit surface area of the filament be the same for all.

I think this is talking about exterior surface so:
P1/2πr1l1=P2/2πr2l2
Then use P=U2/R=U2*π*r2 / ρl
 
I need to learn to read the problem statement more carefully.

Thanks for your help Sonty.
 
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