Tunnels through the center of planet, oscillations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a particle dropped in a tunnel that forms a chord through the Earth, specifically whether it will undergo simple harmonic motion. The scope includes theoretical considerations of gravitational forces and oscillatory motion, with references to idealized conditions.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a particle dropped in a tunnel through the Earth's center will oscillate back and forth indefinitely, similar to a mass on a spring, due to gravitational restoring forces.
  • Another participant agrees that if the tunnel does not go through the Earth's center, the particle will still undergo simple harmonic motion, given ideal conditions such as uniform density and no friction.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that friction would cause the particle to eventually stop at the lowest point of the tunnel, but if friction were removed, the particle would oscillate in harmonic motion, contingent on uniform density.
  • Some participants note that this scenario is a common exercise in introductory physics courses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that under ideal conditions, a particle in a tunnel through the Earth will oscillate. However, there is disagreement regarding the effects of friction and the conditions necessary for harmonic motion to persist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion assumes ideal conditions such as uniform density and neglects friction, but these assumptions are not universally accepted among participants.

Albertgauss
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Hi all,

I know that if you drill a hole from one side of the planet to the other, through the planet's center, that a particle dropped in this tunnel will oscillate back and forth forever, like a mass on a spring, with the restoring force given by gravity.

What if the tunnel forms a chord that goes from point A, (say New York City) to point B (say London) but does NOT go through the Earth's center. If I drop a particle in this new tunnel, will the particle also undergo simple harmonic motion back and forth forever?
 
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Albertgauss said:
What if the tunnel forms a chord that goes from point A, (say New York City) to point B (say London) but does NOT go through the Earth's center. If I drop a particle in this new tunnel, will the particle also undergo simple harmonic motion back and forth forever?
Sure. (Assuming the usual idealizations of uniform density and no friction.) Set up the math to find the restoring force, and you'll see things work out exactly the same in both cases.
 
It would fall into the lower wall of the pit and sooner or later stop because of friction, probably at the lowest point of the tunnel. If you could somehow remove all friction though, and consider only the component of the gravitational force that is parallel to the tunnel, then yes, it would oscillate in harmonic motion. Provided your planet's density is the same everywhere.
 
I think we did this one recently.
 
epenguin said:
I think we did this one recently.
It's a standard freshman exercise.
 
Hi all,

I got it. Thanks! That's what I needed to know. Sorry if this was done recently, I couldn't find it when I searched.
 

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